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Things Musicians Don't Talk About

Hattie Butterworth and Rebecca Toal host a podcast of insight and change in the classical music and arts professions. Delving into the often stigmatised worlds of mental health, injury, discrimination and productivity, classical music issues are spoken and revived. Join Hattie, Rebecca and guests for important conversations, inspiring moments of wisdom and poignant vulnerability.

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Update frequency
every 14 days
Average duration
45 minutes
Episodes
111
Years Active
2020 - 2025
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28. Ellie Consta: conforming no more

28. Ellie Consta: conforming no more

This time on Things Musicians Don't Talk About, we meet Ellie Consta, the founder of Her Ensemble. We talk about the struggles of lockdown, life as a musician, and her growing discomfort with the cla…

00:46:11  |   Mon 27 Sep 2021
27. Laura van der Heijden: anxiety on stage

27. Laura van der Heijden: anxiety on stage

In today's episode Hattie speaks with the renowned cellist Laura van Der Heijden. Laura won the BBC Young Musician of the Year Award in 2012 at the age of 15 and since then has gone on to establish h…

00:51:44  |   Thu 09 Sep 2021
26. Lauren McQuistin: addiction, opera and sobriety

26. Lauren McQuistin: addiction, opera and sobriety

This time, Rebecca takes her turn as interviewer. She speaks to the exceptional Lauren McQuistin about her journey through alcoholism and into recovery, and how it has impacted her musical and person…
00:50:56  |   Wed 18 Aug 2021
25. Melissa Brown: the long haul of OCD

25. Melissa Brown: the long haul of OCD

Hattie speaks with trombonist and fellow podcaster, Melissa Brown about her OCD diagnosis and the impact it has had on Melissa both personally and professionally. We speak about suffering during musi…

01:09:33  |   Wed 04 Aug 2021
24. Sexuality and relevance in classical music

24. Sexuality and relevance in classical music

Trigger warning: discussions around specific homophobic comments
Explicit language is used.


Today we are speaking about recent backlash and online homophobia beneath three posts on Classic FM's social…
00:31:35  |   Tue 13 Jul 2021
23. How are you really? Leaving music college, fearing suicidal thoughts, body image and more

23. How are you really? Leaving music college, fearing suicidal thoughts, body image and more

CW: Suicidal thoughts

I sit down with Rebecca for our first chat as co-hosts!
We discuss the fear around suicidal thoughts, leaving music college, managing transitions, body image, recovery and many m…
01:04:35  |   Tue 29 Jun 2021
22. Raye Harvey

22. Raye Harvey

Today is all things Chineke!, Steiner education, mental health and branching out of classical music into other projects/genres!

Hattie chats to violinist Raye Harvey about her life and education. Delv…

01:06:39  |   Sun 20 Jun 2021
Mental Health Walk 5- Making decisions in instability, degree endlessness

Mental Health Walk 5- Making decisions in instability, degree endlessness

I am so sad that it’s the final day of walks, but today I am escaping the rain inside! I answer some of your questions about making decisions when you’re feeling unstable, the stigma of moving back i…

00:13:50  |   Fri 14 May 2021
Mental Health Walk 4- Vulnerability hangovers and the news

Mental Health Walk 4- Vulnerability hangovers and the news

Thank you for joining me for another walk!! Today I am talking about my vulnerability hangover and how the news affects our mental health (and why it’s ok to delete it) 


Things Musicians Don't Talk Ab…

00:10:48  |   Thu 13 May 2021
Mental Health Walk 3- Power abuse, my story

Mental Health Walk 3- Power abuse, my story

Today I am talking about power abuse in light of being sent this article, written by David-Emil Wickstroem called 'Dealing with (institutionalised) forms of power abuse'.


Power abuse can lead to menta…

00:19:05  |   Wed 12 May 2021
Mental Health Walk 2- Why I hate mindfulness and why I don’t hate being self-compassionate

Mental Health Walk 2- Why I hate mindfulness and why I don’t hate being self-compassionate

Morning! Today was a struggle to wake up but we did. I am walking and talking about the difficulties of mindfulness, why screen time isn’t always a bad thing, letting go of labels and thinking about …

00:14:06  |   Tue 11 May 2021
Mental Health Walk 1- Where I'm at, disordered practice, self destruction

Mental Health Walk 1- Where I'm at, disordered practice, self destruction

Welcome to the first of five walks to raise awareness this Mental Health Awareness Week! Today I am out in rural Oxfordshire talking about how the current situation is impacting our mental health, my…

00:14:48  |   Mon 10 May 2021
20. Channa Malkin

20. Channa Malkin

Today I am talking to the wonderful soprano Channa Malkin about her upcoming CD launch, inspired by the issues, stigmas and graces of motherhood. We talk about Channa’s journey to becoming a mother a…

00:52:56  |   Tue 04 May 2021
19. Matt Frost

19. Matt Frost

How often do we really think about our hearing health as musicians? Do we realise how great the risks to hearing damage actually are and how to protect ourselves adequately? How might we navigate a c…

01:14:40  |   Tue 13 Apr 2021
18. Ella Taylor

18. Ella Taylor

 "Opera is queer af". Yet is is seated within the classical music profession- one dominated by a white, straight, middle-class and privileged persona. Musicians have never fitted this rigidity. The a…

00:53:32  |   Thu 18 Mar 2021
17. Hannah Fiddy

17. Hannah Fiddy

Today I am talking to the co-founder and director of Alternative Classical, Hannah Fiddy. I talk to Hannah about her journey with music and studying music at Cambridge and how this subsequently lead …

01:16:20  |   Wed 03 Mar 2021
16. Nikita Bazil

16. Nikita Bazil

Today we are talking all things OCD. I speak to my wonderful friend and fellow OCD advocate, Anglo-Armenian soprano Nikita Bazil. Nikita is currently studying a Postrgraduate Classical Vocal course a…

01:16:20  |   Thu 11 Feb 2021
15. Rebecca Toal

15. Rebecca Toal

Joining me today is trumpet player, Rebecca Toal. We speak about Rebecca's musical journey, her struggles with anorexia and bulimia at school and how she has curated an instagram platform to speak ab…

00:56:23  |   Wed 27 Jan 2021
14. Happy New Year!- Plans for a new season and where have I been?

14. Happy New Year!- Plans for a new season and where have I been?

Welcome to a new season of the podcast! I am starting this new year with a bit of an update of what I've been up to and why it was important for me to take a break. We are back with new creativity an…

00:27:20  |   Sat 23 Jan 2021
13. Maria Nikitidou (classical music vs low incomes part 3)

13. Maria Nikitidou (classical music vs low incomes part 3)

In this final episode I interview Maria! Maria Nikitidou is a Greek pianist and music educator who believes that music is for everyone and can change an individual's life as well as society as a whol…

00:38:41  |   Sun 25 Oct 2020
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