1. EachPod

Things Musicians Don't Talk About - Podcast

Things Musicians Don't Talk About

Hattie Butterworth and Rebecca Toal host a podcast of insight and change in the classical music and arts professions. Delving into the often stigmatised worlds of mental health, injury, discrimination and productivity, classical music issues are spoken and revived. Join Hattie, Rebecca and guests for important conversations, inspiring moments of wisdom and poignant vulnerability.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Interviews Arts Health & Fitness Music Mental Health Performing Arts Music Interviews
Update frequency
every 14 days
Average duration
45 minutes
Episodes
111
Years Active
2020 - 2025
Share to:
81. Jalayne Mitchell: Classical Wellness

81. Jalayne Mitchell: Classical Wellness

Back in February we talked with the legend, Jalayne Mitchell. It was such a special episode that we had to keep it brewing for many, many months. Jalayne has since taken a break from Classical Wellne…

01:09:46  |   Sat 16 Nov 2024
80. Grief, talent and ethical dilemmas

80. Grief, talent and ethical dilemmas

CW: death; brief mention of disordered eating


What happens when someone dies? How do you talk to someone who's lost a parent? What's wrong with the word 'talent'? Do you take on work that makes you un…

00:45:46  |   Sun 10 Nov 2024
79. The unedit: my 2017 nervous breakdown

79. The unedit: my 2017 nervous breakdown

The start of an unedited series of podcasts.


TW: mental illness


Hattie shares the story of her 2017 nervous breakdown and reads a blog she wrote about it back in August. She also answers questions abou…

00:23:01  |   Thu 31 Oct 2024
78. Matthew Barley on psychosis and healing through ayahuasca

78. Matthew Barley on psychosis and healing through ayahuasca

When cellist Matthew Barley was 16 he tried to take his own life following a drug-induced psychotic episode. He then went on to channel everything into music until in 2019 the trauma of the event res…

00:52:17  |   Fri 27 Sep 2024
77. London Podcast Festival with Ayanna Witter-Johnson

77. London Podcast Festival with Ayanna Witter-Johnson

This was a big one for Things Musicians Don't Talk About: our first live show!!!! We are so grateful to the London Podcast Festival for inviting us to take the stage with the exceptional Ayanna Witte…

01:12:18  |   Wed 11 Sep 2024
76. Laure Chan: bridging cultures and breaking norms

76. Laure Chan: bridging cultures and breaking norms

We're back with our first interview after the summer! The brilliant Laure Chan speaks with Hattie and Becca about her cross-cultural, genre-bending creative endeavours and her journey to musical auth…

00:53:47  |   Mon 09 Sep 2024
75. Blog Special | What if I continue putting on weight forever?

75. Blog Special | What if I continue putting on weight forever?

Trigger warning: eating disorders, weight (no specific numbers)


A different format of episode this week! Becca reads out her latest blog on her body, her identity and her fears about the possibility o…

00:19:01  |   Thu 05 Sep 2024
74. Returning to places of trauma

74. Returning to places of trauma

Reflecting on recent trips back to our former music schools and colleges, we chat about the complex emotions that arise when revisiting places of past trauma. We discuss the challenges of addressing …

00:38:51  |   Mon 15 Jul 2024
73. Ruth Philips: non-violence and the art of rest

73. Ruth Philips: non-violence and the art of rest

When cellist Ruth Philips was 29 and studying in America, she left her room as she wanted it to be found after her death. So certain was she that the performance approaching her would be the end of h…

00:56:06  |   Tue 02 Jul 2024
72. Q&A: TMDTA origins, music schools & workplace politics

72. Q&A: TMDTA origins, music schools & workplace politics

We thought we'd celebrate hitting 3,000 Instagram followers as some sort of milestone in this crazy journey to cultivate much-needed honesty in the music industry! Every follower, every listener we c…

00:45:04  |   Fri 26 Apr 2024
71. Chloé van Soeterstède: conducting through pregnancy & motherhood

71. Chloé van Soeterstède: conducting through pregnancy & motherhood

In this episode of Things Musicians Don't Talk About, Becca sits down with Chloé van Soeterstède in her dressing room at the Royal College of Music. Chloé shares her personal experiences of working a…

00:48:39  |   Fri 05 Apr 2024
70. Queerness and power abuse in classical music: Tár & Maestro

70. Queerness and power abuse in classical music: Tár & Maestro

Another chatty episode for you lovely lot! This was recorded for our last Voices radio slot in February 2023. Hattie and Becca chat about queerness in classical music, exploring our opinions on the f…

00:28:36  |   Thu 07 Mar 2024
69. Zygmund de Somogyi: burnout, belonging, and community in composition

69. Zygmund de Somogyi: burnout, belonging, and community in composition

This week we come to you (unintentionally) from the Royal Opera House! We speak with composer, theatre-maker, and journalist Zygmund de Somogyi about growing up with Autism Spectrum Disorder, not fit…

00:49:11  |   Mon 04 Mar 2024
68. Callas, fatphobia and surviving sexual assault

68. Callas, fatphobia and surviving sexual assault

TW: sexual assault we do discuss an experience of sexual assault/harassment about halfway through the episode so feel free to skip through / give this one a miss <3


We recorded this episode as part …

00:55:45  |   Wed 14 Feb 2024
67. James Partridge: childhood nostalgia

67. James Partridge: childhood nostalgia

A very Happy New Year from us at TMDTA! To kick off 2024, we have an episode recorded waaaaay back last year with the joyous James Partridge. We speak to him about his very unique career, bringing 'p…

00:57:39  |   Tue 02 Jan 2024
66. Jess Hands: when music soothes

66. Jess Hands: when music soothes

On our Voices Radio slot this month, Becca interviewed DJ Jess Hands about her experiences with mental illness and how making music has been a healing distraction from her struggles. We hear her hone…

00:59:24  |   Tue 21 Nov 2023
65. Simon Höfele: breaking the norm

65. Simon Höfele: breaking the norm

Welcome back! This week we speak with astounding trumpet soloist, Simon Höfele, taking a peek behind the scenes of his stunning international career to discuss the reality of it all. We chat about Si…

00:39:03  |   Sun 05 Nov 2023
64. Gavin Higgins: Tourettes, OCD and surviving opera

64. Gavin Higgins: Tourettes, OCD and surviving opera

Composer Gavin Higgins found that music was the only thing calmed his severe facial tics as a young kid. After an assessment at the Maudsley Hospital, Gavin was diagnosed with Tourettes and Obsessive…

01:00:27  |   Thu 19 Oct 2023
*Patreon Preview* Spooky Scary Feedback

*Patreon Preview* Spooky Scary Feedback

It's our first sneaky peaky Patreon preview! Welcome through this little creaky door in the paywall to hear 5 minutes of exclusive content that we recorded last Halloween!


In this episode, Hattie, Kat…

00:06:15  |   Mon 02 Oct 2023
63. Koshka Duff - Abolishing the Police

63. Koshka Duff - Abolishing the Police

This episode is dedicated to Koshka’s wonderful piano teacher, Niel Immelman, who sadly passed away since it was recorded - and who made it all possible.


TW// sexual violence and assault, physical ass…

00:45:49  |   Fri 22 Sep 2023
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are the property of Hattie Butterworth & Rebecca Toal. This content is not affiliated with or endorsed by eachpod.com.