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Things Musicians Don't Talk About

Hattie Butterworth and Rebecca Toal host a podcast of insight and change in the classical music and arts professions. Delving into the often stigmatised worlds of mental health, injury, discrimination and productivity, classical music issues are spoken and revived. Join Hattie, Rebecca and guests for important conversations, inspiring moments of wisdom and poignant vulnerability.

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Update frequency
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Average duration
45 minutes
Episodes
111
Years Active
2020 - 2025
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41. Rosie Bennet - Part 1 surviving anorexia

41. Rosie Bennet - Part 1 surviving anorexia

Trigger warning: eating disorders and mental illness


Part 1: We are extremely grateful to guitarist Rosie Bennet for letting us into the nooks and crannies of her life story. We talk about Rosie's mus…

00:40:49  |   Wed 11 May 2022
40. 10k Q&A

40. 10k Q&A

We reached 10,000 downloads which we think sounds a lot so we did a celebratory Q&A episode! Admittedly we didn't get as many questions as we'd expected (for some reason we thought number of download…

00:48:52  |   Wed 20 Apr 2022
39. Vic Isfryn: pregnancy discrimination

39. Vic Isfryn: pregnancy discrimination

Oh hey there again and thanks for joining us for episode 39!


I could listen to Vic talk all day, honestly. Today, we present to you our chat about life as a freelance musician parent and Vic's experie…

00:49:23  |   Wed 13 Apr 2022
38. Rakhi Singh: a new path

38. Rakhi Singh: a new path

Today we are thrilled to release our conversation with violinist and co-founder of the Manchester Collective, Rakhi Singh.

Speaking with Rakhi was so joyful and restorative. We discuss her life within…

01:04:12  |   Thu 07 Apr 2022
37. Cara Houghton, CUKSN and Burnout

37. Cara Houghton, CUKSN and Burnout

Hattie and Rebecca are joined by the chair of the Conservatoires UK Student Network, Cara Houghton to speak about their Burnout Campaign in collaboration with Healthy Conservatoires, starting this we…

00:56:01  |   Mon 21 Mar 2022
36. Jocelyn Lightfoot: identity and grief

36. Jocelyn Lightfoot: identity and grief

Wow, what a conversation we had with Jocelyn. We discuss the London Chamber Orchestra's recent-ish decision to drop their dress code, but before we get into that we talk about her life before being a…

01:18:33  |   Fri 18 Mar 2022
35. The One Where They Actually Record Everyone in the Same Room

35. The One Where They Actually Record Everyone in the Same Room

This episode, Hattie and Becca are joined by BOP* Stuart Beard. They chat (unsurprisingly) about life as a freelance musician, Hattie’s big move to London, the Sunk Cost Fallacy, turning opportunitie…

00:45:38  |   Wed 23 Feb 2022
34. Frances Wilson, The Cross-Eyed Pianist

34. Frances Wilson, The Cross-Eyed Pianist


Frances Wilson, publicist and writer/blogger extraordinaire talks to Hattie and Rebecca about her blog and other work, her love of live music, lack of creative motivation in lockdown, and what it's l…

01:03:18  |   Fri 11 Feb 2022
33. Ollie West: depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation

33. Ollie West: depression, anxiety and suicidal ideation

Ollie West is an incredibly talented singer-songwriter, as well as being an avid appreciator of classical music. We speak about his experience with anxiety surrounding traditional music education and…

00:52:21  |   Tue 18 Jan 2022
32. December chats - medication, rejections and whether art is a way of life

32. December chats - medication, rejections and whether art is a way of life

TMDTA hosts Rebecca Toal and Hattie Butterworth discuss their experiences taking psychiatric medication following Dr Alex George's PostYourPill campaign. They talk about the stigma and image around b…

00:48:55  |   Thu 16 Dec 2021
31. Anil Umer, live at the Royal Academy of Music

31. Anil Umer, live at the Royal Academy of Music

During our Musicians' Injury Awareness Week, we interviewed Soft Tissue Therapist and Injury Rehabilitation specialist, Anil Umer about his experience of injury, as someone who has both suffered from…

00:41:28  |   Wed 08 Dec 2021
30. Bob Hughes (in full)

30. Bob Hughes (in full)

Last week was our Musicians' Injury Awareness Week and we were absolutely blown away by all the support and love we received before, during and after it. Included in the week was Becca's interview wi…

00:54:46  |   Sat 27 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Angela McCuiston

MIAW 2021 - Angela McCuiston

Welcome to the final episode in the Musicians' Injury Awareness Week monologue series! It's been the most amazing week of discussion, connection and creativity. We are excited to commit to supporting…

00:17:22  |   Sun 21 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Murphy Robertson

MIAW 2021 - Murphy Robertson

It's the inaugural Musicians' Injury Awareness Week, and today's injury story comes from Murphy Robertson. 

Murphy was studying saxophone at Guildhall School of Music and Drama when she started experi…
00:13:12  |   Sat 20 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Songeun Choi

MIAW 2021 - Songeun Choi

Songeun Choi talks about her experience with injury from her time at school onwards and how it's affected her ability to play, practise and fulfil commitments. Thank you for your openness and honesty…

00:19:49  |   Fri 19 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Bob Hughes

MIAW 2021 - Bob Hughes

It's the inaugural Musicians' Injury Awareness Week, and today's injury story comes from Bob Hughes. A sufferer of focal dystonia, Bob shares with us what it was like to go through such an experience…

00:20:29  |   Thu 18 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Sophia Kannathasan

MIAW 2021 - Sophia Kannathasan

Today Sophia Kannathasan tells us about her playing injury, which was diagnosed as golfers elbow. She takes us through the process of grieving playing violin, readjusting her priorities and healing w…

00:11:01  |   Wed 17 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Peter Regan

MIAW 2021 - Peter Regan

Day 2 of the first Musicians' Injury Awareness Week brings us Peter Regan's story. 


Peter recently graduated from the Royal College of Music and this summer founded Fulham Fest with two friends. In hi…

00:18:01  |   Tue 16 Nov 2021
MIAW 2021 - Francesca Leo

MIAW 2021 - Francesca Leo

Flutist Francesca Leo takes us through her journey of long-term injury, somatic education practices and the process of setting up Playing Without Pain


As both flutist and entrepreneur, Francesca has u…

00:19:58  |   Mon 15 Nov 2021
29. Clare Hammond: the terror of post-natal depression

29. Clare Hammond: the terror of post-natal depression

Welcome back! Today Hattie and Rebecca speak with concert pianist Clare Hammond about her experience with generalised anxiety disorder, post-natal depression and how these experiences have lead Clare…

00:52:57  |   Mon 18 Oct 2021
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