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The Fourth Curtain

A GUIDED TOUR OF VIDEOGAME MAKERY! Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Art Director, Game Designer, part time magician) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too. We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you're not a gamer we know you know one. This will help you connect with them too.

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Update frequency
every 7 days
Average duration
75 minutes
Episodes
101
Years Active
2023 - 2025
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From Gamer to Creator with Uri Marchand

From Gamer to Creator with Uri Marchand

Co-founder and CEO of Overwolf, Uri Marchand has been building _THE_ UGC platform for over fourteen years and Overwolf has paid more than $200 million to mod-makers going deep on games from Minecraft…

01:14:01  |   Thu 04 Jul 2024
Mark DeLoura Leverages Games for More

Mark DeLoura Leverages Games for More

Our guest Mark DeLoura has had a stunningly wide-ranging career: game developer and executive for Nintendo, Sony and THQ, Editor in Chief of Game Developer magazine, Senior Advisor for Digital Media …

01:21:09  |   Thu 27 Jun 2024
The Action Arcade Strategy of Shannon Loftis

The Action Arcade Strategy of Shannon Loftis

For a second time we are graced with the presence of videogame legend Shannon Loftis! Veteran of running Flight Simulator and Age of Empires at Microsoft, she was instrumental in the acquisition of R…

01:16:07  |   Thu 20 Jun 2024
The Definition of Indie with Schmid and Kho

The Definition of Indie with Schmid and Kho

Our guests this week are creators of the visually-striking games Cocoon, Limbo and Inside. Jakob Scmid is co-founder of Geometric Interactive and Erwin Kho is the artist guiding a couple of those pro…

00:39:50  |   Thu 13 Jun 2024
The Conference

The Conference

This past March, 30,000 people went to San Francisco for the annual Game Developers Conference. Going since 1988, GDC, brings together people from all corners of the game development community. The F…

00:56:50  |   Thu 06 Jun 2024
How To Start A Game Studio

How To Start A Game Studio

In this inaugural Lunch Club episode of The Fourth Curtain we discuss starting a Game Studio, something Alex has done a few times. We fail to actually eat lunch, but we do talk about the following to…

00:57:38  |   Thu 30 May 2024
Tim Morten's Giant Strategy

Tim Morten's Giant Strategy

This week’s guest Tim Morten has been putting the “real” in real time strategy for years. Formerly lead on Starcraft II, he’s now CEO of Frost Giant Studios, where they’re making Stormgate, a game in…

01:09:58  |   Thu 23 May 2024
Kristian Segestrale’s Midas Touch

Kristian Segestrale’s Midas Touch

Our guest this week was a founder of Glu and Playfish and an early investor in Supercell. Now he’s CEO of Super Evil Megacorp working on TMNT for Switch. We talk the early days of mobile, the great V…

01:23:14  |   Thu 16 May 2024
Up All Night with Ted Price

Up All Night with Ted Price

Beginning with a 3DO dev kit he was developing on alone (!), Ted Price went on to make Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet and Clank and Spiderman. His company Insomniac has been making games for a boggling 30…

01:20:04  |   Thu 09 May 2024
Sharing a Vision with Paul and Katy Bettner

Sharing a Vision with Paul and Katy Bettner

Our guests Paul and Katy Bettner are the Co-CEOs of Playful Games. Paul got his start making Age of Empires and Halo Wars. Together Paul and Katy made the leap into mobile founding NewToy, where Word…

01:25:49  |   Thu 02 May 2024
Peter Moore Takes His Shot

Peter Moore Takes His Shot

Our guest Peter Moore keeps ending up on top, whether it’s Reebok, Sega, EA Sports or Liverpool FC. His remarkable journey begins with semi-pro football, veers into videogames to become a father of t…

01:41:30  |   Thu 25 Apr 2024
What Could Go Right with Mitch Lasky

What Could Go Right with Mitch Lasky

You may know not the name of our guest Mitch Lasky, but you absolutely know his work. He created Activision’s third-party business and basically kicked off mobile gaming. As a VC he played a key role…

01:20:03  |   Thu 18 Apr 2024
Jesse Schell Glimpses the Future

Jesse Schell Glimpses the Future

A circus veteran who literally wrote the book on game design, Jesse Schell had a major impact on one of the biggest IPs in contemporary culture. Founder of Schell Games (member of the very exclusive …

01:19:30  |   Thu 11 Apr 2024
Susan Cumming's Exceptional Track Record

Susan Cumming's Exceptional Track Record

Co-Founder of 2K Games, Susan Cummings has closed some of the biggest deals in videogames – Bioshock, Borderlands, she got XCOM for free! Now the CEO of Tiny Rebel Games she’s making a Petaverse whic…

01:12:22  |   Thu 04 Apr 2024
The Ars Technica of Lorne Lanning

The Ars Technica of Lorne Lanning

Computer graphics pioneer Lorne Lanning founded Oddworld Inhabitants and made six Oddworld games for multiple platforms including helping to launch the original Xbox. His journey has taken him from p…

01:25:59  |   Thu 28 Mar 2024
Tracing the Silhouette of Jordan Mechner

Tracing the Silhouette of Jordan Mechner

Filmmaker and graphic novel artist Jordan Mechner got his start with the smash hit videogames, Karateka and Prince of Persia. His technique of using rotoscoping brought unique fluidity and realism to…

01:18:54  |   Thu 21 Mar 2024
Mike Wilson's Holy War

Mike Wilson's Holy War

Mike Wilson’s commitment to game artists getting their due is impossible to overstate. From his beginnings at DWANGO and iD, to Gathering of Developers, to Devolver, he has pursued a lifelong mission…

01:23:14  |   Thu 14 Mar 2024
Dennis Fong Improves the Internet

Dennis Fong Improves the Internet

Like many of our guests, Dennis "Thresh" Fong has many “firsts” to his name. Not just first pro gamer, but first influencer, builder of many first gamer communities. Now his company Good Games Well P…

01:11:13  |   Thu 07 Mar 2024
Mastermind of God Games Peter Molyneux

Mastermind of God Games Peter Molyneux

With a list of awards and firsts as long as your arm, this week’s guest made the “god game” into an artform, and then went on to multiple other genres – Syndicate, Dungeon Keeper, Black and White, Fa…

01:09:40  |   Thu 29 Feb 2024
Scott Miller's All Out of Bubble Gum

Scott Miller's All Out of Bubble Gum

This week our guest has several high profile innovations to his name – shareware in games, bullet time before The Matrix. He helped launch id Software and then Duke Nukem, Max Payne and so much more.…

01:13:57  |   Thu 22 Feb 2024
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