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The Other 22 Hours

"Artistry flourishes in shared conversation."

Everyone struggles with self-doubt and motivation in their careers. The Other 22 Hours Podcast features conversations with renowned musicians and artists, sharing tools for resilience, helping you feel more inspired, connected, and confident in your creative journey.

Hosted by music producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss, and singer-songwriter Michaela Anne, these are artist-lead conversations - not your typical outsider journalist interviews.

Music Music Interviews Creativity Mental Health Health & Fitness Arts Inspiration
Update frequency
every 7 days
Average duration
51 minutes
Episodes
121
Years Active
2023 - 2025
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David Moore (Bing & Ruth) on interconnectedness, evolving processes, and chefs.

David Moore (Bing & Ruth) on interconnectedness, evolving processes, and chefs.

David Moore is a pianist, composer, and songwriter with many creative outlets, most notably his minimalist/ambient ensemble Bing & Ruth, which has put out records on 4AD and received praise from Pitc…

00:48:05  |   Wed 28 Jun 2023
Mary Bragg on perceptions, rewrites, and dating your creativity.

Mary Bragg on perceptions, rewrites, and dating your creativity.

Mary Bragg is an acclaimed songwriter, producer, coach, and on faculty at Berklee School of Music. We go deep on her songwriting process, cowriting dynamics, and how coming out opened up her creativi…

00:58:15  |   Wed 21 Jun 2023
Hiss Golden Messenger on omnivorous listening, tidal creativity, and the dead.

Hiss Golden Messenger on omnivorous listening, tidal creativity, and the dead.

Hiss Golden Messenger - the pseudonym for M.C. Taylor - has put out 14+ records since 2009 both independently and via Merge Records, including a Grammy nomination for Best Americana Record in 2019. W…

00:50:19  |   Wed 14 Jun 2023
Elizabeth Cook on living creatively, diversification, and fairy tales.

Elizabeth Cook on living creatively, diversification, and fairy tales.

Elizabeth Cook has released 7 records, played the Grand Ole Opry 400+ times, hosts Apron Strings on Outlaw Country Sirius XM and Upstream on Circle TV, and is an occasional character on Squidbillies …

00:50:01  |   Wed 07 Jun 2023
Rodney Crowell on failure, knowing when it's done, and vision quests.

Rodney Crowell on failure, knowing when it's done, and vision quests.

Rodney Crowell is the definition of a legendary songwriter - he has multiple Grammys, 15 #1 singles (5 from 1 record), and everyone from Emmylou Harris to Bob Seger, Waylon Jennings, and George Strai…

00:56:57  |   Wed 31 May 2023
Osei Essed on being open, composing vs songwriting, and defining the language.

Osei Essed on being open, composing vs songwriting, and defining the language.

Osei Essed is a film composer and songwriter who has scored films such as Crater (Disney), Unveiled: Surviving La Luz Del Mundo (HBO), The Lincoln Project (Showtime), and Period. End of Sentence (Osc…

00:46:21  |   Wed 24 May 2023
Mark Erelli on the ritual, learning from others, and choosing daily.

Mark Erelli on the ritual, learning from others, and choosing daily.

Mark Erelli has released over 16 albums, as well as being an in-demand sideman with the likes of Lori McKenna, Josh Ritter, Paula Cole, Amy Helm and others. We cover a lot of ground in this conversat…

00:55:42  |   Wed 17 May 2023
Becca Mancari on owning your creative process, validation vs affirmation, and coping.

Becca Mancari on owning your creative process, validation vs affirmation, and coping.

Becca Mancari is an indie folk artist who releases her own records and plays in Bermuda Triangle with Britney Howard (Alabama Shakes), as well as with Hayley Williams (Paramore). We explore the evolu…

00:56:07  |   Wed 10 May 2023
Leyla McCalla on artistic lives as societal change, inspiration from academia, and parenthood.

Leyla McCalla on artistic lives as societal change, inspiration from academia, and parenthood.

Leyla McCalla is a Haitian-American artist who releases records on Anti- Records, is a member of Our Native Daughters, and has been commissioned to create music in conjunction with research at  Duke …

00:45:39  |   Wed 03 May 2023
Lucius on continual reinvention, building a team, and chores.

Lucius on continual reinvention, building a team, and chores.

Lucius have released 4 records of their own, as well as appearing on records with the likes of Roger Waters, Jackson Browne, The War On Drugs, Brandi Carlile, John Prine, Sheryl Crow, to name a FEW. …

00:42:49  |   Wed 26 Apr 2023
Joe Pug on prioritizing what's fruitful, tracking data, and Dante's Inferno.

Joe Pug on prioritizing what's fruitful, tracking data, and Dante's Inferno.

Joe Pug sold 20,000 copies of his first record after handing out free sampler CDs, and has gone on to be a DIY champion with multiple records and a successful podcast - The Working Songwriter. We tal…

00:45:53  |   Wed 19 Apr 2023
Lola Kirke on multiple creative careers, compare despair, and understanding lineage.

Lola Kirke on multiple creative careers, compare despair, and understanding lineage.

Lola Kirke is an actress/musician who was in Mozart in the Jungle, Winning time and others, and who's latest record "Woman for Sale" is out on Third Man Records. We talk about staying sane while jugg…

00:39:32  |   Wed 12 Apr 2023
Melanie Charles on the importance of exploration, curiosity, and living your artistic message.

Melanie Charles on the importance of exploration, curiosity, and living your artistic message.

Melanie Charles is a genre bending artist/songwriter/producer who's performed with artists from Wynton Marsalis to SZA. We talk about artist freedom, the power of curiosity and exploration, balancing…

01:00:28  |   Wed 05 Apr 2023
BJ Barham on imposter syndrome, longevity, and reinventing yourself.

BJ Barham on imposter syndrome, longevity, and reinventing yourself.

BJ Barham releases music as American Aquarium. We go deep on the power of sticking to it, mining the depths as inspiration, sobriety, and keeping everything in-house.

Get more access, including exclus…

01:15:12  |   Wed 29 Mar 2023
Andrew Combs on challenging stereotypes, creating as healing, and meditation.

Andrew Combs on challenging stereotypes, creating as healing, and meditation.

Andrew Combs is an acclaimed singer-songwriter from Nashville via Dallas, with records released via New West, Loose Music (EU) and independently, and has toured with Shovels & Rope, Caitlin Rose, and…

00:47:07  |   Wed 22 Mar 2023
Aaron Lee Tasjan on inner voices, slowing down, and alternate creative outlets.

Aaron Lee Tasjan on inner voices, slowing down, and alternate creative outlets.

Aaron Lee Tasjan is a Grammy-nominated songwriter, multi-record artist, and former member of bands such as The New York Dolls, Semi Precious Weapons, and Drivin n' Cryin. Here we talk about slowing d…

01:00:40  |   Wed 15 Mar 2023
Emily Scott Robinson on validation addiction, avoiding shoulds, and the power of staying grounded.

Emily Scott Robinson on validation addiction, avoiding shoulds, and the power of staying grounded.

Emily Scott Robinson is a singer-songwriter with multiple records on John Prine's Oh Boy Records, and is a former social worker. Here we talk about the power of staying grounded in yourself and your …

00:49:52  |   Wed 15 Mar 2023
The Milk Carton Kids on knowing what you want, positive boundaries, and the internet.

The Milk Carton Kids on knowing what you want, positive boundaries, and the internet.

The Milk Carton Kids are a Grammy-nominated duo who have released 6+ records. We talk about defining what success looks like on your own terms, setting boundaries to open doors, record making, and pl…

01:14:05  |   Wed 15 Mar 2023
Shovels & Rope on intentional creative time, creative vulnerability, and touring with a family.

Shovels & Rope on intentional creative time, creative vulnerability, and touring with a family.

Shovels & Rope have released 9+ records, including collaborations with Brandi Carlile, Sharon Van Etten and more, have numerous late-night appearances and awards, and also started and curate High Wat…

00:59:47  |   Wed 15 Mar 2023
Kyshona on holding energy, mission statements, and saying no.

Kyshona on holding energy, mission statements, and saying no.

Kyshona is an acclaimed singer-songwriter, music therapist, and session singer. We talk about the importance of listening to yourself, carving out down-time for yourself, and the power of mission/art…

00:50:16  |   Wed 15 Mar 2023
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