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The Other 22 Hours

"Artistry flourishes in shared conversation."

Everyone struggles with self-doubt and motivation in their careers. The Other 22 Hours Podcast features conversations with renowned musicians and artists, sharing tools for resilience, helping you feel more inspired, connected, and confident in your creative journey.

Hosted by music producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss, and singer-songwriter Michaela Anne, these are artist-lead conversations - not your typical outsider journalist interviews.

Music Music Interviews Creativity Mental Health Health & Fitness Arts Inspiration
Update frequency
every 7 days
Average duration
51 minutes
Episodes
121
Years Active
2023 - 2025
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Rosanne Cash on allowing yourself to be called an artist, respect, and rituals.

Rosanne Cash on allowing yourself to be called an artist, respect, and rituals.

Rosanne Cash is a 4-time Grammy-winning member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who has released over a dozen albums and published 5 books, has had her (prose) writing featured in the likes of Oxford…

00:51:31  |   Wed 16 Apr 2025
Tift Merritt on constant flowering, the growing edge, and sound installations.

Tift Merritt on constant flowering, the growing edge, and sound installations.

Tift Merritt is a Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter and practitioner-in-residence at the Franklin Humanities Institute and Duke University, she has released records via Lost Highway, Fantasy Records…

00:42:27  |   Wed 09 Apr 2025
Courtney Hartman on regrounding, perpetual choice, and simplicity.

Courtney Hartman on regrounding, perpetual choice, and simplicity.

Courtney Hartman is a singer-songwriter and guitarist, formerly of the Grammy nominated bluegrass band Della Mae who now performs and releases solo records featuring collaborations with Bill Frisell,…

00:52:41  |   Wed 02 Apr 2025
Fancy Hagood on creating your own lane, the gift of delusion, and magic.

Fancy Hagood on creating your own lane, the gift of delusion, and magic.

Fancy Hagood started his career as a writer in Nashville before because 'discovered' by Scooter Braun, signing to Republic Records, releasing 2 singles - one of which cracked the Billboard top 30 - a…

00:54:08  |   Wed 26 Mar 2025
Maggie Smith on creative purity, trusting yourself, and arm wrestling.

Maggie Smith on creative purity, trusting yourself, and arm wrestling.

Maggie Smith is NY Times bestselling (her memoir “You Could Make This Place Beautiful”), numerous award-winning poet and author who has been considered one of the first viral poets after her 2016 poe…

00:55:37  |   Wed 19 Mar 2025
JD McPherson on the long game, a body of work, and Nick Lowe's advice.

JD McPherson on the long game, a body of work, and Nick Lowe's advice.

JD McPherson is a singer-songwriter and guitar player who's put out records on Decca, Rounder and New West, toured or collaborated with Dan Auerbach, Nick Lowe, and Lucius, is the guitar player for R…

00:54:52  |   Wed 12 Mar 2025
The War and Treaty on living history, intentionality, and roadmaps.

The War and Treaty on living history, intentionality, and roadmaps.

The War and Treaty are a Grammy nominated duo who have released 6 records and EPs, starting out with independent releases before moving on to Rounder and now Mercury/Universal Nashville. They are the…

00:45:00  |   Wed 05 Mar 2025
On Family Business: Robert Ellis, Leyla McCalla + Joe Henry

On Family Business: Robert Ellis, Leyla McCalla + Joe Henry

This is the 4th and final episode of our thematic mini-series, and this week we are looking at the ways some of our Patreon's favorite guests have found to balance their family lives and their creati…

00:46:37  |   Wed 19 Feb 2025
On Self Doubt: Madame Gandhi, Langhorne Slim + Ryan Miller (Guster)

On Self Doubt: Madame Gandhi, Langhorne Slim + Ryan Miller (Guster)

This is episode 3 of our mini-series of conversations compiled around a different theme each episode. This week we look at all things self doubt: from imposter syndrome, to score keeping, doubt hidin…

00:43:44  |   Wed 05 Feb 2025
On The Business of DIY: Jesse Boykins III, Laura Veirs, Joe Pug + BJ Barham (American Aquarium)

On The Business of DIY: Jesse Boykins III, Laura Veirs, Joe Pug + BJ Barham (American Aquarium)

This is episode 2 of our mini-series of conversations compiled around a different theme each episode. This week we dive into the business of DIY, and stories of different artists that have built succ…

00:45:55  |   Wed 22 Jan 2025
On Failure: Rodney Crowell, Madi Diaz, Aaron Lee Tasjan.

On Failure: Rodney Crowell, Madi Diaz, Aaron Lee Tasjan.

This is episode 1 of a mini-series centered around a different theme each episode. This week we explore failure in it's many forms: enduring it, embracing it, overcoming it, learning from it - all fr…

00:50:38  |   Wed 08 Jan 2025
Chuck Prophet on controlled chaos, learning by doing, and being well-adjusted.

Chuck Prophet on controlled chaos, learning by doing, and being well-adjusted.

Chuck Prophet has put out 17+ solo records, 10 records with his former rock band Green on Red, and has worked with Bruce Springsteen, Kim Richey, Kelly Willis, Alejandro Escovedo, and Tony Visconti, …

00:44:29  |   Thu 26 Dec 2024
James Vincent McMorrow on shelf life, space to fail, and culty connotations.

James Vincent McMorrow on shelf life, space to fail, and culty connotations.

James Vincent McMorrow is a platinum-selling, billions-streaming singer-songwriter who has released records independently and via labels such as Nettwork and Columbia, work with Paul Epworth, Kenny B…

01:05:28  |   Wed 18 Dec 2024
Liz Longley on buying your art back, touring as self care, and wilderness.

Liz Longley on buying your art back, touring as self care, and wilderness.

Liz Longley has released 10+ records both independently and with labels such as Rounder Records, raised $150,000 on Kickstarter (the 4th most largest campaign by an independent artist at the time) to…

00:48:51  |   Wed 11 Dec 2024
Tommy Emmanuel on endless experimenting, genre non-conforming, and stage craft.

Tommy Emmanuel on endless experimenting, genre non-conforming, and stage craft.

Tommy Emmanuel is a legendary acoustic guitar player from Australia, where he has received some of the nation's highest honors, won Grammy, ARIA, and IBMA awards (amongst others), released 27+ record…

00:47:48  |   Wed 04 Dec 2024
Caroline Spence on owning your art, accepting evolving goals and dreams, and defining yourself.

Caroline Spence on owning your art, accepting evolving goals and dreams, and defining yourself.

Caroline Spence has released 5 records independently and via Rounder Records, has written and/or recorded with Emmylou Harris, Lori McKenna, Matt Berninger (The National), and Sarah Jarosz, and toure…

00:54:17  |   Wed 27 Nov 2024
Becca Stevens on the intersection of passion and parenthood, creating within grief, and shared calendars.

Becca Stevens on the intersection of passion and parenthood, creating within grief, and shared calendars.

Becca Stevens is a Grammy-nominated singer songwriter who has released 6+ records of her own music, as well as collaborating with the likes of David Crosby, Jacob Collier, Laura Mvula, Brad Mehldau, …

00:53:45  |   Wed 20 Nov 2024
Brandy Clark on beating self doubt, finding community, and standing out.

Brandy Clark on beating self doubt, finding community, and standing out.

Brandy Clark is a Grammy winning artist and songwriter, who has had her songs recorded by Sheryl Crow, Miranda Lambert, Kacey Musgraves, Billy Currington, Darius Rucker and more, and co-wrote the mus…

00:46:56  |   Wed 13 Nov 2024
Kevn Kinney (Drivin N Cryin) on self healing rock and roll, unlearning, and mixtapes.

Kevn Kinney (Drivin N Cryin) on self healing rock and roll, unlearning, and mixtapes.

Kevn Kinney is best known as the songwriter and singer of the Georgia rock band Drivin N Cryin, who has released 20+ records over the last almost 40 years, some independent and some on major labels, …

00:52:42  |   Wed 06 Nov 2024
Nicki Bluhm + Jesse Noah Wilson on band therapists, learning from elders, and sourdough discard.

Nicki Bluhm + Jesse Noah Wilson on band therapists, learning from elders, and sourdough discard.

Nicki Bluhm is a singer-songwriter who has released multiple solo records and records with her former band The Gramblers, and has toured/performed/recorded with the likes of Phil Lesh, Aj Croce, Oliv…

00:58:31  |   Wed 30 Oct 2024
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