Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.
Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine.
Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!
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And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at [email protected]
- Update frequency
- every 6 days
- Average duration
- 30 minutes
- Episodes
- 55
- Years Active
- 2024 - 2025
Good Enough Expectations
Kel and Michelle sit down with Lenie and Ken to discuss their successful long-term marriage. They share reflections on what has and hasn't worked for them over the years and give us a lesson on how …
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 7 Deep Dive: Have The Eulogy Before The End
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 7, Michelle delves into the healing power of of trying to heal before it's too late. And the gift of sharing gratitude while parents are around to hea…
Anticipating Loss
Kel and Michelle sit down with Gavin, a single, middle-aged man who recently lost his father, to talk about loss, what it's like dealing with aging parents, and his feelings of anxiety and dread watc…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 6 Deep Dive: When Independence Gets Out Of Hand
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 6 with guests Ian and Sue, Michelle takes a deeper look at hyper-Independence and how Ian and Sue's strategy is better.
And to ask a question or to be a…
Proactive Relationship Structuring
Kel and Michelle sit down with Sue and Ian, a married couple of 40 years, to talk about how they create a solid foundation by understanding each person's strengths and putting their principles on pap…
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 5: Don't Waste My Time
To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 5 with Anna and Sage, Michelle delves into questions you can ask yourself and your date to make the process of dating less of a waste of time.
And to be…
Single and Dating
Kel and Michelle spend some quality time talking to Sage and Anna, two close 30-something friends, about the challenges of being single, the dating scene, and some major dating deal-breakers for each…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 4 Deep Dive: Understand Your Fear
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 4 with Matt, Michelle delves deeper into how to address the fear of moving on or putting yourself back out there.
To be an on-air guest of Unrelating, E…
Jumping Back In The Pool
Kel and Michelle sit down with newly single Matt to talk about life after his divorce and when (and how) he should feel ready to jump back into the dating pool.
And to be a future guest of Unrelating,…
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 3 Deep Dive: How To Be Male And Have Feelings
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 3 with Jason, Michelle explores the challenges for men who really do want to connect with other men emotionally, but find it difficult.
To ask us a ques…
Yo, Dude, Wanna Hang?
Kel and Michelle sit down with Jason to talk about male friendships. As a young professional a few years out of college, he discusses the unique challenges he and other men face when it comes to con…
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 2 Deep Dive: Know How To Fight
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 2 with Ed and Joey, Michelle delves into different fighting styles and why you should know your own and your partner's.
To ask us a question or to be an…
The Art of Living Together
Kel and Michelle sit down with Ed and Joey, a young energetic couple, to talk about how they met, the ups and downs of their relationship, and how they balance being both roommates and partners.
To be…
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 1 Deep Dive
After every show, Michelle tackles a theme from that conversation and does a deeper dive to give you concrete steps for your own relationship.
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 1 with …
The Mother-Daughter Dilemma
Mother-daughter relationships have a special status and a kind of hefty weight to them. In this episode we sit down and chat with Kellie, the mother of a 30 year old daughter, to talk about their re…