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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle - Podcast

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.

Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades. 
 
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine. 

Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior.  And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!


Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts! 

And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at [email protected]

Society & Culture Relationships Education Mental Health Self-Improvement Health & Fitness
Update frequency
every 6 days
Average duration
30 minutes
Episodes
55
Years Active
2024 - 2025
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Evaluating Our Priorities

Evaluating Our Priorities

Kel and Michelle sit down with personal development coach, relationship strategist and author Nick Brancato to discuss his new book, what real life events inspired him to write it, and how couples ca…

00:50:06  |   Wed 09 Apr 2025
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 19 Deep Dive: Bad Vibes, Good Vibes

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 19 Deep Dive: Bad Vibes, Good Vibes

To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 19, Michelle draws inspiration from Jonathan's athletic mindset to explore when a hard feeling might be helpful.

To ask us a question or be our next on-…

00:03:53  |   Fri 28 Mar 2025
The Critic In The Mirror

The Critic In The Mirror

Kel and Michelle sit down with tennis pro Jonathan to discuss the challenges and expectations associated with his career and the impact shame and self-judgement have had on him. 

To ask us a question,…

01:05:29  |   Wed 26 Mar 2025
Ask Us Anything

Ask Us Anything

Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions. 
How  do you reacclimate to a new partner in your life?
What to do when a partner puts others ahead of you?
How do you build back trust aft…

00:27:44  |   Wed 05 Mar 2025
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 17: Check Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 17: Check Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Epis 17,  in this deep dive Michelle reviews valuable questions to ask yourself so you don't repeat repeat old patterns in new relationships.

To ask us a questi…

00:02:34  |   Fri 21 Feb 2025
Setting New Love On The Right Path

Setting New Love On The Right Path

Kel and Michelle sit down with returning guest Matt and his new girlfriend Andrea to discuss their new relationship, how they communicate and meet each other's needs, and the steps they're taking now…

01:00:43  |   Wed 19 Feb 2025
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 16 Deep Dive: Don't Wait To Feel Okay with Yourself

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 16 Deep Dive: Don't Wait To Feel Okay with Yourself

To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 16, Michelle talks about women delaying their own happiness and the continued challenges of deciding to end relationships or not.

To ask us a question o…

00:06:23  |   Fri 07 Feb 2025
Good Girls Don't Get Divorced

Good Girls Don't Get Divorced

Kel and Michelle sit down with 91 year old Nancy to talk about getting divorced from her husband almost 50 years ago, why it was such a difficult decision for the time period, how she was able to fin…

00:49:57  |   Wed 05 Feb 2025
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 15 Deep Dive: Am I A Good Person?

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 15 Deep Dive: Am I A Good Person?

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 15, join Michelle in a deep dive about how to deal with feeling fear or doubt about who you are and figuring out what you need to do about it.

To ask us…

00:04:46  |   Fri 24 Jan 2025
Ask Us Anything

Ask Us Anything

Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions. 
What to do when your spouse is addicted to their phone. 
Learning to accept others who don't share your values. 
Dealing with infidelity.

T…

00:27:59  |   Wed 22 Jan 2025
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 14 Deep Dive: When Your Loved Ones Don't Like Your Choices

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 14 Deep Dive: When Your Loved Ones Don't Like Your Choices

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 14, Michelle delves deeper into how you can respond if the people in your life are pressuring or judging you for your relationship choices.

To ask us a …

00:06:11  |   Fri 17 Jan 2025
Making Your Own Path

Making Your Own Path

Kel and Michelle sit down with Dom and Cyn, a long time couple who got married after nearly 50 years together, to talk about how they created their own unique path for a successful relationship.

To as…

00:54:33  |   Wed 15 Jan 2025
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 13 Deep Dive: Tips For A Pessimist

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 13 Deep Dive: Tips For A Pessimist

Tips For a Pessimist.  Michelle delves deeper into why you should figure out your brain's bias towards optimism or pessimism for the sake of your relationships.

To ask us a question or be our next on-…

00:02:12  |   Sat 11 Jan 2025
The Doomsday or Rose-Colored Brain

The Doomsday or Rose-Colored Brain

Kel and Michelle sit down with Michelle's parents Noemi and Jose, happily married for almost 50 years, to talk about optimistic versus pessimistic brains and how they can affect our relationships.

To …

00:34:10  |   Wed 08 Jan 2025
New Year's Non-Resolutions

New Year's Non-Resolutions

On a special New Year's Day 2025 episode of Unrelating, Kel & Michelle sit down to chat about the importance of setting non-resolutions, avoiding putting too much pressure on yourself, and examples o…

00:24:06  |   Wed 01 Jan 2025
Best Of Unrelating

Best Of Unrelating

It’s the Christmas holiday, and we’re in a giving mood! So we’ve gift wrapped a special Best Of episode of Unrelating, with some of our most engaging moments.
Jason discusses the challenges of connect…

00:35:04  |   Wed 25 Dec 2024
Holiday Anxiety

Holiday Anxiety

On a special Holiday episode, Kel & Michelle sit down to chat about the anxieties associated with the holidays and how to manage the stresses associated with finances, traveling, unrealistic expectat…

00:22:48  |   Wed 18 Dec 2024
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 9 Deep Dive: The Take It Or Leave It Myth

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 9 Deep Dive: The Take It Or Leave It Myth

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 9, Michelle dives deeper into the pitfalls of having a mindset that you don't need to change in relationships.

To ask us a question or be our next on-ai…

00:04:42  |   Fri 13 Dec 2024
I Am Who I Am

I Am Who I Am

Kel & Michelle sit down with Viv to talk about how we balance who we are as an individual with who we are in a relationship.   Viv offers her unique perspective and dynamics within her own life, whil…

00:45:49  |   Wed 11 Dec 2024
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 8: Assume The Best, Not the Worst

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive Episode 8: Assume The Best, Not the Worst

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 8, Michelle delves into the concept of emotional maturity and why Lenie and Ken are right to act in good faith with each other.

To ask us a question or …

00:02:30  |   Fri 06 Dec 2024
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