The Business of Writing Podcast

Kim Krause Schwalm spent more than 13 years in the corporate marketing world, working for one of the biggest publishers in the country. So it's no surprise that she burst into the direct response wor…

For nearly 3 decades Nicole Piper built multi-million-dollar businesses around the globe for big brands and entertainment properties like MTV, Nickelodeon, Pokémon, and The Sharper Image.

Now Nicol…

Rob has worked as a Copywriter, Producer and Creative Director at various companies including FranklinCovey, Publicis, and Hewlett Packard. So he's got a solid combo of “big company” and “agency” exp…

Russ is the founder of Modern Publisher, a community and learning program where he teaches information publishers how to provide their audiences with massive value, and to charge for it without feeli…

Today we’re chatting with Joel Klettke, who is a sought-after conversion copywriter and consultant.

With a background in entrepreneurship, Joel brings a strategic approach to building and scaling a…

Today we're talking about something that we feel is missing from many conversations about building your business. 

When you work alone or in small teams, as many writers do, it’s critical to build …

Today's episode is especially exciting, because our guest today has massively influenced the development of this podcast.

Kevin Rogers is not only a master copywriter, coach, and copy chief – but h…

April Dykman is a direct response copywriter and consultant for the health, biz opp, and personal development markets.

She’s beat some incredibly competitive copy controls in the health niche, she …

Today we're chatting with Direct Response Copywriter, James Barger.

From Mechanical Engineer, to Drone Pilot, to big Launch Copywriter – James has one of the most diverse backgrounds of anyone we'v…

Cindy is a professional ghostwriter who specializes in boutique book writing services.

She’s passionate about working "projects that matter" and has written for several best-selling authors, both i…

Liz Talago is passionate about paving a better way through the content marketing industry for freelancers and clients alike.

With a background in psychology and a passion for number-driven data, sh…

When we asked about the biggest challenges in your writing business, many of you said that finding clients was your #1 struggle.

Only second to that was figuring out what to charge and how to get p…

Brian McCarthy is one of those guys who instantly puts a smile on your face and is always thinking about how he can give away value to others.

He also happens to be a talented copywriter who's work…

This one is for all you writing and literature nerds.

We first met Elisa Doucette while living in Thailand, and immediately knew she was "one of us." While the digital nomad crowd was just gaining …

Today we're chatting with Jimmy Parent.

Jimmy is a full-time direct response copywriter who specializes in generating persuasive hooks, and big ideas.

Big idea generation can be really difficult,…

In this episode we’re chatting with Angie Colee.

She is not only a copywriter and talented storyteller, but she also leads the team over at Product Launch Formula with Jeff Walker.

Angie not only…

While this is one of our first episodes, we can already tell this is going to be one of the most popular guests on our show.

Derek Murphy is a writer, artist, and entrepreneur who is taking the sel…

Abbey Woodcock has helped thousands of freelancers master one of the hardest parts of being a full-time writer – the business side of writing.

She helps writers take control of the management and g…

Chris Orzechowski is a writing powerhouse.

He's a copywriter who spends most of his time writing and strategizing about email copy, but he's built a business that's so much more than that.

Chris'…

Welcome to the Business of Writing Podcast, we're your hosts, Rachel Mazza and Laura Gale.

Both of us are writers who have been working for ourselves full-time for the better part of a decade, and …