Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the longest-running, independent healthcare podcast.
Since 2007, Matthew’s been calling out the hypocrisy, hubris, and hostage-taking baked into American healthcare—with a mic in one hand and a middle finger in the other.
What started as a pirate radio rebellion is now the most trusted, notorious, and unfiltered show in the game. Patients love it. Industry listens. And anyone who’s ever been gaslit by the system knows exactly where to turn to nod their heads in shared rage.
Every episode delivers unsanitized stories, dark humor, policy takedowns, and angsty GenX truth bombs—told by the people living it, not spinning it.
It’s the show you love about the healthcare you hate.
- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 32 minutes
- Episodes
- 447
- Years Active
- 2020 - 2025
Pixel Perfect: Jordan and Anna Rathkopf
When life hands you a cancer diagnosis, you grab a camera. Anna and Jordan Rathkopf turned their battle with HER2-positive breast cancer into a groundbreaking photojournalistic journey. Join Matthew …
00:38:04 |
Tue 17 Dec 2024
Crossroads4Hope: Amy Sutton’s Guide to Navigating Cancer Support
In this full-circle conversation, Matthew Zachary sits down with Amy Sutton, Executive Director of Crossroads4Hope, to dive deep into the evolution of cancer support and the profound legacy of organi…
00:36:27 |
Tue 10 Dec 2024
Pulverizing The Stigma: The Return of Robots in Jon Nelson's Head
In this highly anticipated follow-up, we welcome back Jon Nelson, the man who went from battling relentless, treatment-resistant depression to becoming a pioneering advocate for mental health. Jon’s …
00:37:06 |
Tue 03 Dec 2024
The Legend of Jonny Imerman
In this hilariously heartfelt episode, Matthew Zachary sits down with his long-time friend and cancer warrior, Jonny Imerman, the trailblazing founder of Imerman Angels. With candor and camaraderie, …
00:43:06 |
Tue 26 Nov 2024
Cancer Hope Network: Peer Support with Purpose
In this episode, host Matthew Zachary dives into the history and mission of Cancer Hope Network (CHN) with Executive Director Beth Blakey and Program Officer Marielle McLeod, a young adult cancer sur…
00:38:54 |
Tue 19 Nov 2024
![[HIATUS] The Inimitable Lisa Simms Booth](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/bb/a3/b0/73/bba3b073-a46e-4827-b836-2e7785c481be/b29952c4716d5b48f3f2057960d5ff3af348d6ed461ebb7469ed6424ace534be0cb6cd123259b3c8ffd998c305092984827819b78c0af937ae546b4fdd605bc2.jpeg)
[HIATUS] The Inimitable Lisa Simms Booth
On the show today: Lisa Simms Booth is Executive Director at The Smith Center for the Healing Arts and former Senior Director for Patient and Public Engagement at The Biden Cancer Initiative. She is …
00:33:20 |
Tue 12 Nov 2024
![[HIATUS] Kara Goldin: Hint! Hint! (A Show That's ACTUALLY Good for You)](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/2f/9d/7d/18/2f9d7d18-a611-422e-b115-f5cbe867cdf4/7c34064b6851cfc95f66913354df12b6451907633a9c87c31db728dfdfdbcb854ac7a23154575b7e4eef53ebe64d8b45481ae40bf94389a5ecdeb6d38e540cad.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Kara Goldin: Hint! Hint! (A Show That's ACTUALLY Good for You)
Today I talk to Kara Goldin — health product entrepreneur, breast cancer advocate, and the Founder and CEO of HINT Inc. Kara calls herself an accidental entrepreneur because she invented a product th…
00:34:35 |
Tue 05 Nov 2024
![[HIATUS] In The Bubble with Andy Slavitt: From CMS to Accidental Podcast Hero](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/47/c2/1f/73/47c21f73-d38c-4087-baf0-da5fc6310f2a/6deca0d455c7e439d1d9c6a9028892b9924cf15a77a7656acedee2e558df3b0602ddfef9834538acf778ba38b9da6a3a4599c3a1a83b927747840b18529b9b51.jpeg)
[HIATUS] In The Bubble with Andy Slavitt: From CMS to Accidental Podcast Hero
For most healthcare geeks, Andy Slavitt may be best known as the Former Acting Administrator for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). For millions more, he is the podcast hero we did…
00:37:12 |
Tue 29 Oct 2024
![[HIATUS] Lithium: Not Just For Batteries](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/55/a7/46/91/55a74691-d44b-4d1e-920f-e13fbc501a64/6752d036f8a69f946d3aec69844209fde654cb5b443cdb0935971c56b4bb15920804d7b2c408577168bc89342318a5095c8e849cec60933bf8c3c05c06b99aaf.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Lithium: Not Just For Batteries
Dr. Sudhir Gadh is a board-certified psychiatrist and Commander in the US Navy Reserve. He is also Medical Director for the Center for Recovery and Wellness, with a core focus on low-dose Lithium, as…
00:35:09 |
Tue 22 Oct 2024
![[HIATUS] Ask MZ Anything with Carly Flumer](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/5e/77/2d/04/5e772d04-0ce8-4b56-bba8-6140ad8670c5/1475e01400214e5045288c5afab17ac6d15cfe0d1bd669491f168dd67d25c5272d639e94ab3360736db9a062ed81fea1bc7d6c9d8649d7619317a60bf2b3ce99.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Ask MZ Anything with Carly Flumer
Returning champion to Out of Patients, advocacy badass Carly Flumer flips the script on Matthew Zachary as she takes the reins for an AMA (Ask Matt Anything) reverse interview. Hilarity ensues as we …
00:32:57 |
Tue 15 Oct 2024
![[HIATUS] Dr. Ashani Weeraratna on](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/00/87/a1/f9/0087a1f9-4df3-4588-9a9f-5de83f6b8f0b/50726739eba238810da8794eac36f6ef16d65072a8d8b567951ac7803d2c3a24633798cc33783f4b2a2c25dd052d780f2a5cc35a2a041654032dde1a79d1f45a.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Dr. Ashani Weeraratna on "Is Cancer Inevitable? "
Today, I speak with Dr. Ashani Weeraratna. She's a leading cancer researcher at Johns Hopkins, and President Biden appointed Ashani to the National Cancer Advisory Board. She's also a researcher at t…
00:25:48 |
Tue 08 Oct 2024
![[HIATUS] 1990s Cancer: AOL or Bust with Steve Friedman](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/4d/27/fc/46/4d27fc46-c298-4074-8495-c506b4480c03/d4c2f2ae6ca29ca97a41597b00686900482c2c5d605ec088ed97dd20098bb426f010c5e4541483bf77b67e15a356d4904404ba45add4bbca0e265af12d4293aa.jpeg)
[HIATUS] 1990s Cancer: AOL or Bust with Steve Friedman
On the show today, my brother from another mother — Steve Friedman, is the Senior Advisor of Operations for SEER at the National Cancer Institute. (We'll get into all the acronyms later in the show b…
00:32:40 |
Tue 01 Oct 2024
![[HIATUS] The Chutzpah Show with Sarah Cotenoff](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/7e/6e/b1/c8/7e6eb1c8-5e5b-4e62-b9e6-060958a93389/9228cb241d02400e49204dd0e7275c3fed12b6aa73387b764370bfbd71c75236eb4c77aea4889fdeacf0c1febb1c787db9881ee4686a441047c94e9f12eb7627.jpeg)
[HIATUS] The Chutzpah Show with Sarah Cotenoff
On the show today, I welcome 'First mover in Audio & Podcasts" Sarah Cotenoff, Former co-founder of Podsights — and, more importantly — my former intern at The Stupid Cancer Show. Losing your father …
00:34:11 |
Tue 24 Sep 2024
![[HIATUS] Dr. Mark Lewis Is the Twitter We're Looking For](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/71/5e/dd/47/715edd47-05fe-404f-bb85-61e33913d4ae/a0fa618a89d7481bba7e1de6debd6e236f6b85f9e4616c9527910c97db35a61a52b00019d6725ea65f3a1062802ea2f5defc2dd2fe60c2563e9849aad3cf22dc.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Dr. Mark Lewis Is the Twitter We're Looking For
Dr. Mark Lewis is the Director of GI Oncology at Intermountain Healthcare in Salt Lake City. He is also a young adult survivor of pancreatic cancer, a thought leader on #MEDTwitter, and one of the fu…
00:32:26 |
Tue 17 Sep 2024
![[HIATUS] Stupid Cancer: You Know What It Is with Alison Silberman](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/74/21/20/63/74212063-3652-4893-9dd5-01f3e501af3a/91c0bd81ddcc90749cd47cdfe61f64a1a5561c43201bdddc0f42db190a9dc047d6f8fac08abfdca411fe020b46657bcccb99adffc5ca993762bd926cddc6deb2.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Stupid Cancer: You Know What It Is with Alison Silberman
On the show today, I'm so thrilled to welcome live in-studio Alison Silberman, CEO at Stupid Cancer (my old job, as you may know), and Shannon Wyant, a fellow AYA cancer survivor and sitting committe…
00:32:18 |
Tue 10 Sep 2024
![[HIATUS] Lynch Syndrome: Try To Not Get Cancer?](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/26/ab/31/6e/26ab316e-fee8-4136-b753-706030caab4c/dd29f8f97ef7d7507295f52820ae7d8732aab9dbd41995ae41bb1799283ff2b9c0d2a70a165be488559d34d4b5cc68b05c12767803f88e6602bfdc3598cb6ea7.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Lynch Syndrome: Try To Not Get Cancer?
Today on the show, we talk to powerhouse couple David and Robin Dubin, who founded Alive and Kickn to advocate for those with the Lynch gene. At age 29, Dave was diagnosed with colon cancer and Lynch…
00:29:56 |
Tue 03 Sep 2024
![[HIATUS] This Little Diagnostic Went To Market...](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/8c/e2/17/19/8ce21719-167d-4f3e-9e24-c2cb00190955/9db1331dc4980aaa83d002bb0f970b76ed2f51f602fe864603b8e752fd53e7d843881ff82a66169e79b1410114aad4eab9a322a6f4c5131355bb30c29343fec1.jpeg)
[HIATUS] This Little Diagnostic Went To Market...
On the show today, I'm thrilled to welcome – LIVE IN STUDIO — Liz Cormier-May, CEO of Mammogen, and Marty Keiser, CEO at IV Bioholdings. It's hard to blend funny, entertaining wit with healthcare jar…
00:36:01 |
Tue 27 Aug 2024
![[HIATUS] Overhead: Dan Pallotta on How Great Nonprofits Actually Work](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/27/6d/a0/72/276da072-cd06-49f5-a0f8-a65cb9cafff0/7caf9ea0d5277dc63ed6c1b3c1f3a9e4b456eb176b1f646585fea0f6cf8e28bfb040d410639acc0e61bc318d4ff3c5b9f355c2039bd36cf45d7efee5c2422799.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Overhead: Dan Pallotta on How Great Nonprofits Actually Work
On today's show, we welcome one of the most influential human beings of my career: Dan Pallotta, champion of charity and the entire nonprofit business sector. Dan's take on how we as a culture think …
00:28:18 |
Tue 20 Aug 2024
![[HIATUS] The One With Jane Sarasohn-Kahn](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/b9/23/c9/d8/b923c9d8-f7ef-4027-b2c1-6a4e5e59291e/7bd2b42ff035809f7ba6925f60e23ee45af815f7b5b6486f5016b98f2da8dc2afa9f52b851d77b846c68863abbb5fce8371f96a41af4222817654d607b0d7911.jpeg)
[HIATUS] The One With Jane Sarasohn-Kahn
Today's show is not a "very special episode" of Different Strokes, Facts of Life, Family Ties, Webster, or Blossom, BUT it is a "very special episode" nonetheless. Jane Sarasohn-Kahn has been a frien…
00:39:35 |
Tue 13 Aug 2024
![[HIATUS] Cancer Guidelines: Excuse Me While I Whip This Out](https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/81/1d/44/db/811d44db-e4dc-4cf8-a601-be093d6a7f05/99ca79eb0826b2f6d6891310c5c43c14b39feeec3e452f6a0a98c2eca9d5180c67dbed6780070be8150351868f5bf9f863e4a5cddbc9189c673f51091252a73e.jpeg)
[HIATUS] Cancer Guidelines: Excuse Me While I Whip This Out
Throughout the history of cancer advocacy, there are the advocates who made us and the organizations who made us. And one such organization is the National Comprehensive Cancer Network, which is — fo…
00:31:48 |
Tue 06 Aug 2024
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