Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary
Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the longest-running, independent healthcare podcast.
Since 2007, Matthew’s been calling out the hypocrisy, hubris, and hostage-taking baked into American healthcare—with a mic in one hand and a middle finger in the other.
What started as a pirate radio rebellion is now the most trusted, notorious, and unfiltered show in the game. Patients love it. Industry listens. And anyone who’s ever been gaslit by the system knows exactly where to turn to nod their heads in shared rage.
Every episode delivers unsanitized stories, dark humor, policy takedowns, and angsty GenX truth bombs—told by the people living it, not spinning it.
It’s the show you love about the healthcare you hate.
- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 32 minutes
- Episodes
- 447
- Years Active
- 2020 - 2025
Jen Finkelstein: Wigs, Wegmans, and War Stories
Jennifer Finkelstein is not here for your pity, your pinkwashed slogans, or your performative awareness campaigns. She’s a 20-year young adult breast cancer survivor who turned trauma into a blueprin…
00:46:44 |
Tue 29 Apr 2025
Kill Bill Meets Jane Fonda: Ilaria Montagnani
What happens when a black belt, sword-slinging fitness icon gets cancer—twice? She picks up a camera and dares the universe to test her again.
Ilaria Montagnani is not your average anything. She’s b…
00:38:08 |
Tue 22 Apr 2025
Patient No More, Bullsh*t No More: Helene M Epstein
Helene M. Epstein is not here to make friends with the healthcare system. She's here to dismantle the bullshit, one catastrophic medical error at a time. An ad agency veteran turned patient safety fi…
00:40:01 |
Tue 15 Apr 2025
Be Like Zach: Love, Loss, and Legacy
Jonathan and Jennifer Wall didn’t choose this path, but they’re walking it with purpose. After losing their son, Zach, they turned their grief into action, founding Zach’s Bridge, a lifeline for fami…
00:44:06 |
Tue 08 Apr 2025
Love Is Rare. Life Is Strange: My Best Friend Sarah
Sarah Armstrong—forever Sarah Oakden to me, no matter what the legal documents say—isn't just my best friend.
She's my first college friend, my musical theater soulmate, and the first person who tr…
00:50:31 |
Tue 01 Apr 2025
Food for Thought: Cancer, Calories, and Kicking Ass
Food for Thought: Cancer, Calories, and Kicking Ass
Vanessa Rissetto is back, and she’s bringing the same energy, wit, and unapologetic realness that made her a fan favorite. Last time, we talked nu…
00:39:22 |
Tue 25 Mar 2025
HPV, Anal Cancer, and the Fabulous Ms. Lillian Kreppel
EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Lillian Kreppel doesn’t hold back. A seven-year anal cancer survivor and co-founder of the HPV Cancers Alliance, she has made it her mission to challenge stigma, fight misinforma…
00:39:23 |
Tue 18 Mar 2025
IMPOSSICANT! Grace Charrier’s No-Holds-Barred Cancer Rebellion
Grace Charrier—a powerhouse advocate, author, and cancer survivor—whose journey from a Stage 3 triple-negative breast cancer diagnosis to global advocacy is nothing short of extraordinary. Originally…
00:37:57 |
Tue 11 Mar 2025
The Art of Healthcare Fuckery
Buckle up, because Amy Gittelman is back, and this episode is one for the ages. A fellow SUNY Binghamton (yes, we still call it that) alum, Amy joins me for a hilarious and brutally honest deep dive …
00:40:56 |
Tue 04 Mar 2025
Unf*cking Healthcare with Deb Gordon
Welcome to another episode of Out of Patients, where we get real about the absolute circus that is the American healthcare system. If you've ever been trapped in a medical billing nightmare, gaslit b…
00:42:35 |
Tue 25 Feb 2025
Cancer, AI, and the Meaning of Life
You know how some people enter your life with a knock, a bang, or maybe even a LinkedIn request? Not Rebecca Batterman, returning champion to Out of Patients, making her dramatic second appearance,
…
00:41:28 |
Tue 18 Feb 2025
The Big Talk: Where Legacy Meets Spotlight
Tricia Brouk isn’t just a storyteller—she’s a story architect, crafting narratives that connect humanity. A former ballet dancer turned award-winning director, choreographer, and transformational spe…
00:43:59 |
Tue 11 Feb 2025
Mad Science: AI, Mental Health, and the Future of Sanity
Get ready for a wild ride with Matt Lewis, the Tony Stark-meets-Jerry Seinfeld of the mental health AI world. As a multi-degreed polymath, Matt has been ahead of the curve on AI since MySpace was a t…
00:46:08 |
Tue 04 Feb 2025
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[BONUS] HannahPod: A Solo Act with Dad
What happens when you give a 14-year-old the mic and let her fly solo without her twin brother? Magic, that’s what. This episode of Out of Patients features my daughter, Hannah, on her seventh (yes, …
00:15:44 |
Thu 30 Jan 2025
The Natanya Experience: A Tsunami of Wit, Wisdom, and Whoa
Prepare for a whirlwind of brilliance with Dr. Natanya Wachtel—a self-proclaimed "failed therapist" turned media maven, behavioral strategist, and all-around badass. In this episode, we dive into her…
00:36:53 |
Tue 28 Jan 2025
“Don’t Google It” with Jen Singer
Back for Round 2 and wielding her wit like a machete, Jen Singer returns to Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary. Cancer survivor, heart failure "graduate," and creator of the 'Just Diagnosed Guides,…
00:36:16 |
Tue 21 Jan 2025
No Time for Why: Sean Wachter Returns
Prepare to be inspired and entertained as Sean Wachter returns to Out of Patients! Sean, aka "The Cancer Fighter," is a two-time melanoma survivor, professional wrestler, coffee shop entrepreneur, an…
00:37:39 |
Tue 14 Jan 2025
Mariana Arnaut: The After Cancer
In this lively and insightful episode of Out of Patients, host Matthew Zachary sits down with Mariana Arnaut, Founder and CEO of The After Cancer, a groundbreaking platform helping cancer survivors n…
00:37:05 |
Tue 07 Jan 2025
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[BONUS] The GenX/GenZ Ultimate Therapy Throwdown
What happens when two fresh-faced Gen Zers—Matthew Zachary Worldwide Chief of Staff Jenisa Ramprasad and Marketing Intern Lauren Woodring—sit down with a cranky, nostalgia-fueled Gen Xer (ahem, Matth…
00:43:36 |
Tue 31 Dec 2024
The 2024 Koby & Hannah Year End Wrap Up
It’s the annual Out of Patients tradition you didn’t know you needed—Matthew’s miracle IVF twins, Koby and Hannah, are back on the mic for their 5th appearance! These famous 14.5-year-old personaliti…
00:34:39 |
Tue 24 Dec 2024
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