All Out in the Open
All Out in the Open is a resource for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and those who love them. Our goal is to help listeners connect with themselves, with their families, with their community, and with God. Hosts Charlie Bird and Ben Schilaty help listeners open up to themselves and those around them. Clare Dalton digs into the scriptures and teaches how they can be a catalyst for personal revelation. Iese Wilson takes listeners on a tour of LGBTQ Latter-day Saints all over the Church and introduces us to modern day pioneers. Michael Soto and Liz Macdonald highlight the amazing work of those who are building and strengthening their communities. Learn more at www.alloutintheopen.org.
- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 46 minutes
- Episodes
- 218
- Years Active
- 2020 - 2025
Join Us For a Gathering
We’re hosting a morning gathering for LGBTQ+ Latter-day Saints and those who love them! Think light breakfast, good conversation, a few connection activities, and a short devotional.
📅 Saturday, Septe…
Church Resources You May Not Know About (with Barry Donakey)
This week’s OPEN Up episode features Barry Donakey, who helped launch LGBTQ+ workshops at Utah Valley Institute and is involved with the Gather Conference.
Barry joins Ben and Charlie to explore Churc…
When God’s Promises Seem Unmet (with Hannah Bryan)
This week in our IN the Scriptures episode Clare Dalton and Hannah Bryan discuss Doctrine and Covenants 94-108. These sections outline the intense persecution of the early Church members living in Mi…
Why a Queer Asian Nonmember Showed Up At an LDS Institute (with Atlas Nocturne)
This OUT and About episode features Atlas Nocturne (he/they). While at Arizona State University, Atlas began attending the Church’s Institute of Religion—even though they’re not a member.
They share w…
Building Bridges over Obstacles Together (with Bree & Kit Borrowman)
This week in our ALL Together episode, Bree and Kit Borrowman share their powerful journey of love, identity and community. Bree, a high school science teacher, lived with gender incongruence and dys…
How a Gay Catholic is Making Space to Stay (with Justin Telthorst)
This week in our OPEN Up episode, Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird talk with Justin Telthorst, a gay Catholic and founder of Empty Chairs, a nonprofit working to build belonging between LGBTQ+ individua…
Gather Conference Live Q&A
How can I be a good ally? How do you stay hopeful in a difficult world? Who is Ben’s celebrity crush?
Learn the answers (and more) in this THE Exclusive episode: a live Q&A from the 2025 Gather Confer…
New Eyes and a Fresh Understanding (with Ben Bernards)
This week in our IN the Scriptures episode, Clare Dalton sits down with Ben Bernards, an author, blogger, podcaster, and a beloved youth speaker known for his energetic love of the gospel. He is also…
A Closet without a Door: How Culture Affects Coming Out (with Adrian)
Our OUT and About episode this week looks a little different. Our guest Adrian (name changed) from Indonesia isn’t able to come out publicly, so he shared his experiences as an LGBTQ+ Latter-day Sain…
At Last They’re on the Podcast (with Cynthia WinWard & Susan Hinckley)
This week’s ALL Together episode features Cynthia Winward and Susan Hinckley, hosts of a podcast and authors of a book called At Last She Said It. They started their podcast to amplify the unspoken t…
What LGBTQ+ Latter-Day Saints Wish Others Understood (with Ben & Charlie)
On this week’s OPEN Up episode, Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird share heartfelt and powerful insights gathered from a survey of LGBTQ+ Latter-day Saints. What do they wish their families, leaders, and …
Visions, Doctrine, and the Wait for Understanding (with Stefanie Reinsch)
This week, Clare Dalton sits down with Stefanie Reinsch to discuss Doctrine & Covenants 71–83. Stefanie shares her journey of revelation and resilience. From serving a mission to coming out as bisexu…
How a Gay Brit Learned to "Come As You Are" (with James Grant)
On this week’s OUT and About episode, Iese Wilson talks with James Grant, a gay, neurodivergent Latter-day Saint from England currently serving on his stake high council. James shares his journey of …
Advocacy is for Everyone (with Landon Phillips)
On this month’s ALL Together episode, hosts Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Landon Phillips. Landon shares his journey of coming out, transitioning, and stepping into the world of LGBTQ+…
God's Promise to His LGBTQ+ Children (with Charlie & Ben)
In this week’s OPEN Up episode, Ben and Charlie discuss the concept of deliverance, drawing parallels between the ancient Israelites and the LGBTQ+ community.
They explore how the Spirit can push us …
Building Zion as LGBTQ+ Saints and Allies (with Patrick Mason)
What does it take to build Zion?
This week on IN the Scriptures, Clare Dalton sits down with Patrick Mason, professor of religious studies and history at Utah State University, to discuss Doctrine & C…
A Gay Brazilian's Take on Rainbows, Raindrops, and Divine Identity (with Icaro Paraguassú)
OUT and About: Iese Wilson sits down with Icaro Paraguassú, who shares his experiences as a gay Latter-Day Saint from Brazil. They discuss faith, identity, diversity, and the need for resources that …
How Two Parents Built What They Were Praying to Find (with Sara & Bryce Cook)
In this heartfelt episode of ALL Together, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto sit down with Bryce and Sara Cook, parents of two gay sons and founding members of ALL (Arizona LDS LGBT). After their sons c…
Ben Reflects on Being Denied a Temple Recommend (with Ben & Charlie)
This month on OPEN Up, Ben shares a deeply personal story about navigating the reactions of his local Church leadership after he performed a same-sex wedding.
Ben and Charlie discuss the scrutiny tha…
How Gather Conference is Changing Lives (with Emilee Cutler & Spencer David Smith)
In this special episode of THE Exclusive, Ben Schilaty is joined by Emilee Cutler and Spencer David Smith to talk about the upcoming Gather Conference, taking place this June in Provo, Utah. Now in i…