The Two Of Us

Poet, journalist and educator Alan Chazaro talks about changing his profession from high school teacher to full time writer, how poetry has helped him define his identity as a Mexican-American from t…

In this deeply intimate and courageous interview interdisciplinary artist Leon Clowes talks about early childhood trauma and the impact on his life and art. Leon shares the experience of being brough…

London-based textile artist Gina Morton shares her experience of art school, how making art has helped her connect with her mother and understand her mother’s mental illness. She also talks about the…

Naomi and Kate Codrington have a in-depth chat about the menopause, the opportunity to resolve lifelong issues and why all roads lead to the safety and sanctity of vulnerability and tenderness. Kate’…

Megan Elizabeth Taylor Hogg is visual artist, new mother, Art Psychotherapist trainee and lecturer based in Edinburgh. We discuss her becoming a mum, our dead mums, art’s power to heal, and how Megan…

Angela Alberto Heartwise Woman talks about her fascinating work as a death midwife, anti-diet work, what it means to fully surrender to what our bodies are asking for and how liberating that can be. 

Poet, translator, critic, tutor and poetry mentor Katrina Naomi escaping a difficult home life when she was young, her life changing poetic journey and how important moving to Cornwall has been for b…

For the 100th episode The Two of us show hosts Naomi Woddis and Alba Frederick have a freewheeling conversation about the history of the show, visions for the future and why exploring the links betwe…

Performance and video artist Paula Varjack talks about her creative process, entertainment and discomfort, the audience as a collective and the importance of inviting new ways of seeing and thinking.…

Performance artist, educator and fitness instructor Kat François talks about the power of words and creativity in her life, the process of grieving, and her Adenomyosis diagnosis.

CW: Grief, Diagnosi…

Poet Jill Abram talks about how discovering the poetry community meant finding 'her people'. She talks about loneliness and why lockdown has been hard for her as an extrovert. 

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Artist and 'Floopers creator' bitsifind talks about body acceptance, her art journey, and how art has helped her through an abusive relationship. 

CW: Domestic abuse 

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Writer Courttia Newland talks about his writing process, coming of age in the 1980’s and his experience of writing for Steve McQueen’s Small Axe series. He reads from his astounding new novel A River…

Mental Health and Wellbeing Creative Practitioner Deborah Porter shares her process of art journaling and how fundamental it has been to her mental health. She talks about her recovery journey from a…

Syd Langton of Langton Taxidermy talks about her journey into taxidermy, her motivation and love of nature, and navigating life during lockdown. 

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CW: the process of taxidermy, death o…

Naomi talks to photographic artist Rachel Wright about her relationship to nature and change, her breast cancer journey and the inspiration provided by collaborating with other artists.

CW: Breast …

Poet and writer Jordan Paunova talks about her relationship to creativity and gender identity, her experience of adoption and self harm and shares poetry from her recent collection and a new piece.

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Poet Denise Saul talks about being a carer for her late mother who had aphasia, and the poetry that arose from their shared experience of this. She shares some profound new work from her forthcoming …

Alba and Patrizia discuss writing in both English and Italian, Patrizia's research in her poetry, her adoption, discovering the Latinx community, and lots more! Plus, she reads a couple of poetry gem…

In a fearlessly honest interview writer Shelley Silas shares how running and cold swimming have made a huge impact on her mental health, and how fitness is an essential part of her self care. We disc…