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The Systemic Way

This podcast gives the listener an opportunity to hear conversations with people from the field of systemic psychotherapy. Host Sezer and Julie, two systemic and family psychotherapists, discuss a wide range of topics, theories, practices and experiences with their guests, giving the listener an insight into this disciplines contribution to social change.

Artwork by Arai Drake Creative: http://www.araidrake.com/portfolio/thesystemicway/Music by Rena Paid

We are now being supported by the Association of Family Therapy (AFT).

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Update frequency
every 15 days
Average duration
73 minutes
Episodes
93
Years Active
2021 - 2025
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An Ocean of Meaning in Speech Melody: Accent, identity and Power in Therapy with Jordan Makmihe

An Ocean of Meaning in Speech Melody: Accent, identity and Power in Therapy with Jordan Makmihe

In systemic psychotherapy we often focus on the words we use, but what about the sound of them? In this episode, we meet with systemic psychotherapist and social worker Jordan Makmihe to explore the …

01:18:41  |   Sun 31 Aug 2025
Reading as Reflexive and Mindful Practice: A Conversation with Desa Markovic

Reading as Reflexive and Mindful Practice: A Conversation with Desa Markovic

In this thought-provoking episode, we sit down with therapist, trainer, supervisor and author Desa Markovic to explore her compelling paper on the Aspects of Reading (2021) - a model that invites pra…

01:03:00  |   Sat 02 Aug 2025
The Love Revolution: Soul, Soil & Society with Satish Kumar

The Love Revolution: Soul, Soil & Society with Satish Kumar

In this inspiring and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with peace activist, former Jain monk, and ecological visionary Satish Kumar to explore the profound power of Radical Love—the focus of hi…

00:59:55  |   Sun 06 Jul 2025

"In the Nest of Relational Process" - Nora Bateson on Warm Data, Ecology of Connection, and The Systems That Shape Us

What if our biggest crises – from climate collapse to mental health – demand not simpler solutions, but a deeper embrace of complexity? Join us for a profound conversation with Nora Bateson, award-wi…

01:28:39  |   Sun 01 Jun 2025
EFTA - Systemic Therapy in A Changing World: Social justice, Research and Relational Ethics. In conversation with Umberta Telfener, President of EFTA, and Hans Christian Michaelsen, Vice President of EFTA

EFTA - Systemic Therapy in A Changing World: Social justice, Research and Relational Ethics. In conversation with Umberta Telfener, President of EFTA, and Hans Christian Michaelsen, Vice President of EFTA

In this rich and wide-ranging conversation, we sit down with Umberta Telfener, President of EFTA, and Hans Christian Michaelsen, Vice President, to explore the heart of systemic practice across Europ…

01:04:50  |   Fri 16 May 2025
Liberating Systemic Values: How IFT’s Social Action is Redefining Training, Research, and Organisational Futures: In Conversation with Taiwo Afuape and Sumita Dutta

Liberating Systemic Values: How IFT’s Social Action is Redefining Training, Research, and Organisational Futures: In Conversation with Taiwo Afuape and Sumita Dutta

In this episode, we speak with Taiwo Afuape and Sumita Dutta, Co-Directors of the Institute of Family Therapy in London, to explore the rich history and bold new direction of one of the UK’s leading …

01:35:00  |   Wed 16 Apr 2025
The Wisdom of

The Wisdom of "Not Knowing" - Collaborative Dialogical Practice and Embracing Curiosity With Dr Harlene Anderson

Join us for an inspiring and thought-provoking interview with Dr. Harlene Anderson, a trailblazer in systemic psychotherapy and co-founder of the Collaborative-Dialogical Approach. In this deep dive,…

01:33:25  |   Sun 06 Apr 2025
Sailing the 7 C's of Systemic Practice in Primary Healthcare Settings: In conversation with Dr John Launer

Sailing the 7 C's of Systemic Practice in Primary Healthcare Settings: In conversation with Dr John Launer

Join us in this insightful episode as we sit down with Dr. John Launer, a retired GP, family therapist, and pioneer in integrating systemic and narrative approaches into healthcare. Dr. Launer shares…

00:54:39  |   Tue 18 Feb 2025

"Thinking Theory, Talking Ordinary": John Burnham on his Approaches, Methods and Techniques to Therapy, Supervision and Training.

Join us for an inspiring and personal conversation with John Burnham, a true trailblazer in systemic psychotherapy and a visionary in the field of family therapy. With a career spanning over five dec…

01:54:22  |   Mon 03 Feb 2025
Opening Doors for Open Dialogues in the UK: In conversation with Nick Putman

Opening Doors for Open Dialogues in the UK: In conversation with Nick Putman

In this episode, we sit down with Nick Putman, founder of Open Dialogue UK and a leading force in adapting the Open Dialogue approach to the UK. As a UKCP registered psychotherapist and certified Ope…

01:22:34  |   Sun 19 Jan 2025
Neurodiversity, Systemic Practice, and Reflections – Hayaa’ Network Conference 2024

Neurodiversity, Systemic Practice, and Reflections – Hayaa’ Network Conference 2024

In this episode, we’re joined by attendees from the Hayaa’ Network’s groundbreaking conference on neurodiversity, held in Singapore in February 2024. Together, we reflect on the latest advancements i…

01:24:31  |   Sun 15 Dec 2024
The Divided Island - Film as Systemic Intervention: In conversation with filmmakers Cey Sesiguzel, Andreas Tokkallos and guest co-host Dr Emilios Lemoniatis.

The Divided Island - Film as Systemic Intervention: In conversation with filmmakers Cey Sesiguzel, Andreas Tokkallos and guest co-host Dr Emilios Lemoniatis.

Join us for a compelling exploration of, The Divided Island, a groundbreaking documentary film that delves into the complex history, identity, and shared humanity of Cyprus. In this episode, we sit d…

01:14:50  |   Sun 01 Dec 2024
Songs of Hope and Change: David Denborough - a journey with the communities of Narrative Therapy

Songs of Hope and Change: David Denborough - a journey with the communities of Narrative Therapy

In this episode, we sit down with David Denborough, a leading figure in narrative therapy and community work, to explore the fascinating journey that brought him to this transformative approach. Davi…

01:35:29  |   Sun 17 Nov 2024
Race, Power, Privilege and the Psychology of Otherness: With Dr Dwight Turner

Race, Power, Privilege and the Psychology of Otherness: With Dr Dwight Turner

In this episode with speak with Dr Dwight Turner who shares his thoughts, ideas and reflections on his two books Intersections of privilege and otherness in counselling and psychotherapy: Mockingbird…

01:17:09  |   Sun 27 Oct 2024
Race As The Highest Context Marker: In conversation with AFT's DWP Race Group

Race As The Highest Context Marker: In conversation with AFT's DWP Race Group

In this episode we are joined by the Association for Family Therapy (AFT)'s Diversity Working Party (DWP) - Race Group. 

The group share their experiences of meeting and working together and their ong…

01:43:04  |   Sun 06 Oct 2024
The Estranged Energy Cycle: Understanding Ruptured Mother-Daughter Relationships with Khara Croswaite Brindle

The Estranged Energy Cycle: Understanding Ruptured Mother-Daughter Relationships with Khara Croswaite Brindle

In this episode we talk with Khara Croswaite Brindle about her book Understanding Ruptured Mother-Daughter Relationships.

We hear about how therapists can prepare to address ruptured mother daughter r…

00:55:16  |   Wed 18 Sep 2024
A Tale of Three Sisters: A Movie Analysis from Critically Informed Family Therapy Perspective with Ozlem Kose PhD

A Tale of Three Sisters: A Movie Analysis from Critically Informed Family Therapy Perspective with Ozlem Kose PhD

In this episode we are joined by Ozlem Kose PhD to discuss an article she co-wrote with Fatma Arıcı-Şahin & Ahmet Abakay, A Tale of Three Sisters: A Movie Analysis from Critically Informed Family The…

01:15:01  |   Sun 01 Sep 2024
Addressing Race Based Trauma! With Dr. Jamila Holcomb

Addressing Race Based Trauma! With Dr. Jamila Holcomb

Dr Jamila Holcomb is a marriage and family therapist and supervisior in Florida joins us to discuss racial trauma. Given the current climate and the ongoing wrestle with racism and its impact on comm…

01:13:18  |   Sun 18 Aug 2024
AI, Web3, The Metaverse and Intersections with Mental Health: With Marianne Le Coyte Grinney

AI, Web3, The Metaverse and Intersections with Mental Health: With Marianne Le Coyte Grinney

In this episode we speak with Marianne Le Coyte Grinney about mental health and tech. Marianne is the founder of Held Mind an organisation that offers training, support and consultation on mental hea…

01:07:07  |   Sun 21 Jul 2024
Systemic Lens Ep 3: Unpacking the Magic: A Systemic Analysis of Disney's Encanto

Systemic Lens Ep 3: Unpacking the Magic: A Systemic Analysis of Disney's Encanto

In this episode of The Systemic Lens, we delve into the enchanting world of Disney's "Encanto" through the lens of systemic psychotherapy. Join us as we explore the complex dynamics of the Madrigal f…

01:19:58  |   Sun 07 Jul 2024
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