THE REAL LAWYER
THE REAL LAWYER
Sophia Media
Join corporate lawyer, law firm owner and former BigLaw partner Joyce Sophia Xu for candid conversations with real lawyers about life, working in law and everything in between.
Tune in every other week on Monday, Wednesday and Friday to hear a real lawyer share their journey - what led them to law school, how their career has evolved after graduation, and, most importantly, how they keep it real and find joy and fulfillment along the way.
Created and Produced by: Sophia Media
Sponsored by: Joyce Xu Law LLC - www.joycexulaw.com
Music By: Nana Simopoulos
- Update frequency
- every 4 days
- Average duration
- 23 minutes
- Episodes
- 24
- Years Active
- 2024 - 2025
The Real Lawyer: Caren Khoo (Part 3)
In the heartfelt conclusion to our three-part conversation, Caren Khoo, Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at Verizon, opens up about the foundational supports behind her success…
The Real Lawyer: Caren Khoo (Part 2)
In this episode, Verizon VP & Deputy General Counsel Caren Khoo shares her 17-year journey from patent litigator to corporate legal leader. She reveals how transitioning from BigLaw to …
The Real Lawyer: Caren Khoo (Part 1)
In this episode, Caren Khoo, VP & Deputy General Counsel at Verizon, discusses her path from industrial engineering to corporate legal leadership. She shares insights about transitionin…
The Real Lawyer: Josh Fershee (Part 3)
Episode Summary - Part 3: A Day in the Life of a Law School Dean
In this final episode, Dean Josh Fershee pulls back the curtain on his daily life leading Creighton University School of …
The Real Lawyer: Josh Fershee (Part 2)
Episode Summary - Part 2: Building a Supportive Legal Education Environment
In this episode, the conversation continues with Josh Fershee, Dean of Creighton Law School, who reflects on h…
The Real Lawyer: Josh Fershee (Part 1)
Episode Summary - Part 1: From College Town to Law School
In this episode, Josh Fershee, Dean and Professor of Law at Creighton University, takes us on a journey through his unique path …
The Real Lawyer: Lucy Fato (Part 3)
In this final episode, Lucy Fato shares her leadership journey at Seaport Entertainment, navigating the complexities of real estate, hospitality, and live events. She reflects on how le…
The Real Lawyer: Lucy Fato (Part 2)
In this episode, Lucy Fato opens up about her bold move from Big Law to the corporate world. She shares why she finally said yes to Marsh McLennan after turning down a previous offer an…
The Real Lawyer: Lucy Fato (Part 1)
In this episode, Lucy Fato, a renowned corporate lawyer, shares her inspiring journey from her first-generation Italian-American upbringing in Pittsburgh to becoming a leader in corpora…
The Real Lawyer: Wayne Outten (Part 3)
In this episode of The Real Lawyer Podcast, host Joyce Sophia continues her conversation with Wayne Outten, Chair and Founding Partner of Outten and Golden, a labor and employment law f…
The Real Lawyer: Wayne Outten (Part 2)
In this episode of The Real Lawyer Podcast. Wayne shares the incredible journey of building one of the leading labor and employment law firms in the country, starting with just two lawy…
The Real Lawyer: Wayne Outten (Part 1)
In this episode of The Real Lawyer Podcast, Joyce Sophia chats with Wayne Outten, a pioneer in labor and employment law and founding partner of Outten and Golden. Wayne shares his inspi…
The Real Lawyer: Daren Stanaway (Part 3)
In the final part of her interview, Daren Stanaway discusses the profound influence her mother had on her confidence, resilience, and success. She reflects on lessons in leadership and …
The Real Lawyer: Daren Stanaway (Part 2)
In this episode, Daren Stanaway shares how mentorship and drive shaped her early litigation career. She reflects on lessons in legal writing, strategic thinking at Bingham (now Morgan L…
The Real Lawyer: Daren Stanaway (Part 1)
In this episode, Daren Stanaway reflects on her path from growing up in Billings, Montana, to attending Harvard for both undergrad and law school. Initially drawn to journalism, Daren’s…
The Real Lawyer: Ryne Miller (Recap)
Joyce Sophia Xu recaps the Ryne Miller interview and shares her key takeaways.
The Real Lawyer: Ryne Miller (Part 3)
In the final episode, Ryne Miller discusses how he stays grounded amid the pressures of a legal career. He highlights the role of mentorship, staying connected to networks, and prioriti…
The Real Lawyer: Ryne Miller (Part 2)
In this episode, Ryne Miller discusses the evolution of his career, highlighting his work in commodities, derivatives, and cryptocurrency regulation. He reflects on his time at the Comm…
The Real Lawyer: Ryne Miller (Part 1)
In this episode, Ryne Miller discusses his journey into law, shaped by his upbringing in Yukon, Oklahoma, and global experiences studying in England and volunteering in Thailand. These …
The Real Lawyer: Shruti Rana (Recap)
Joyce Sophia Xu shares her thoughts on her interview with Shruti Rana and invites you to join the Conversation.