The Rational Middle

Carola Suárez-Orozco (Distinguished Professor of Counseling and School Psychology at the University of Massachusetts Boston, as well as co-founder of Reimagining Migration) sits down with host Meliss…

Elena Marks (President and CEO of the Episcopal Health Foundation, as well as Nonresident Fellow in Health Policy at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy) and Loren Steffy discuss the …

In this bonus episode of the Rational Middle Podcast, Jina Krause-Vilmar (President and CEO of Upwardly Global, a group that works to eliminate employment barriers for immigrant and refugee professio…

Ruth Milkman, Sociologist of labor and labor movements at CUNY School of Labor and Urban Studies, sits down with host Chris Lyon to discuss the pervasive myth that immigrants steal Americans' jobs an…

Consulting psychologist Karl Krumm kicks off our limited-series special, "Rational Middle Podcast: Mythbusting Edition," with a provocative discussion of confirmation bias and other traps to watch ou…

Guests Laura Goldberg (Center for Houston's Future) and Pamela Lizette Cruz (Baker Institute's Center for the United States and Mexico) unpack the published report on the results of a workshop on U.S…

Hosts Gregory Kallenberg and Chris Lyon give you the rundown on today's Solutions Summit, "Immigration Mythbusting." Join us and learn all about productive ways to bust immigration myths!

Daniel Tichenor, professor of Political Science and director of the Wayne Morse Center’s Program for Democratic Governance at the University of Oregon, pops the hood on President Biden's apparent log…

Writer and activist Jessica Goudeau sits down with host Loren Steffy to discuss her book, "After The Last Border," and the consequences, implications, and emotions of America's changing attitude towa…

Chief Andy Harvey, newly-elected police chief for Pharr, TX, sits down with host Gregory Kallenberg for a frank discussion of his experience working in embattled immigrant communities and the importa…

Join host Melissa Brannan as she sits down with Mauricio Zuñiga to listen to his incredible story — a story of deportation, resilience, and a family-run coffee company.

Rational Middle hosts Chris Lyon, Gregory Kallenberg, and Loren Steffy unveil a "fun" new summit, and consider the implications of VP Harris's much-discussed border visits.

Picking up where we left off last week, Aviva Chomsky leads us through the legacy of 20th-Century revolutionary movements in Central America and what it means for immigration policy today.

Catherine Glazer, immigration attorney with experience practicing in Canada as well as the U.S., sits down with host Melissa Brannan. to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities for immigratio…

Jennifer Minear, outgoing president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association, gives host Melissa Brannan the lowdown on the strategies, challenges, and hopes facing immigration lawyers as a re…

Holly Kuzmich, Executive Director of the George W. Bush Center, speaks with host Chris Lyon about the Center's bipartisan approach to immigration advocacy, including their open letter to Congress str…

Sociologist Ruth Milkman, editor most recently of Immigration Matters: Movements, Visions, and Strategies for a Progressive Future (with Deepak Bhargava and Penny Lewis), joins host Chris Lyon in thi…

Xiao Wang is an immigrant and Co-Founder and CEO of Boundless Immigration, a team made up of immigrants and experts who assist those who are seeking green cards and citizenship in finding resources a…