Soul + Practice: Raw Conversations & Real Practices with Kathy Escobar & Phyllis Mathis

Episode 30: Season Two Wrap

Wow, we covered a lot of ground since January and in this episode we look back at some of the conversations we’ve had together, promise to fix the sound, and reflect on wha…

 Episode 29: Soul Healing with Angie Fadel 

Embodied practices are everything, and Angie Fadel, our kindred and spiritual director and meditative archer, shares more about the hard, beautiful, and lif…

Episode 28: Recovering Racists with Idelette McVicker

Idelette McVicker joins us for a soulful conversation about her new book, Recovering Racists: Dismantling White Supremacy and Reclaiming our Human…

 Episode 27: Dreaming of a Better Way

Healthy systems are possible! Simple and small matters. Living systems are against the grain but are built on healing ourselves to help heal the world. Our dreams…

 Episode 26: “How Will I Be Today?” - A Conversation with Aram Haroutunian 

We have the best friends! Aram Haroutunian is a chaplain, pastor, and person of presence who has decades of experience in en…

Episode 25: Long Haul Love and Learning…A Conversation with Suzann Mollner

Suzann Mollner has worked alongside Palestian Refugees for many years, and there’s so much we can learn from her about relati…

Episode 24: Self Care

Self Care is a word and practice that has gained a lot of much-needed traction over the past few years but what if we are approaching self-care in the same way the world works an…

Episode 23: Freedom To…A Conversation with David Hayward (Naked Pastor)

David Hayward, also known as Naked Pastor, is one of our kindred spirits and dear friend from afar for many years. In this episo…

Episode 22: Our First Guest! A Conversation With Jamison Escobar 

We had such a fun conversation with our first guest, Jamison Escobar, Kathy’s son and catalyzer of goodness related to Diversity, Equi…

 Episode 21: Paradoxing 

We bring it up all the time but in this episode we focus in on the practice of paradox-ing, holding *all the things* despite their contradictions. It’s definitely an art, not …

Episode 20: All the Supremacies 

The lies of white supremacy, male supremacy, straight supremacy, Christian supremacy, thin supremacy, and all kinds of other supremacies are embedded into our culture,…

Episode 19: Spiritual Bypassing

In our desire to “be okay” in the world, we often do all kinds of things to skip over pain, find an easier solution, and bypass some of the deeper work. 

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Episode 18: Our Hope is in the Underground

The realities of war in Ukraine stir up a lot of feelings of powerlessness, fear, and hopelessness for the state of our world. What is our part to play in ch…

Episode 17: Eldering

Don’t worry, we’re not talking about church elders, we’re talking about the wisdom that comes with aging, how we need each other–young and old mixed up together–and how crucial it…

Episode 16: Presence is Everything 

Living in the here and now instead of in the future of the past is no small task. In a fragile and fractured world, being present is our best shot at surviving it. …

Episode 15: Death  

Talking about death, preparing for death, honoring death, respecting our mortality and other people’s mortality as well is something that a lot of us aren’t that great at naturally…