Out Of Line
This is a podcast about stepping out of line, challenging the norms of schooling, recentering the child, and letting go of control for control's sake. Whether you're schooling, unschooling, deschooling, or homeschooling, this podcast is for you.
- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 33 minutes
- Episodes
- 82
- Years Active
- 2022 - 2025
OOL_0022 Troy Salazar Steps Out Of Line
Troy Salazar, founder, director and facilitator of Liberty Self Directed Learning Center in Des Moines, Iowa, shares with us about his experience leaving his 22-year public school career behind. Libe…
00:21:18 |
Tue 25 Oct 2022
OOL_0021 The System’s Role In Teacher Burnout
The system of schooling in the US is failing not just students, but also teachers.Teacher shortages are high, morale is low. According to the Washington Post, K-12 education lost more than 21,000 wor…
00:28:03 |
Tue 18 Oct 2022
OOL_0020 Socialization In Unschooling
There is a pervasive myth that homeschoolers don't socialize outside of their home. Annie and Candis are once again joined by Carol Kohl to bust that myth. Together they talk about the authentic soci…
00:29:44 |
Tue 11 Oct 2022
OOL_0019 On Rest And Resetting With Carol Kohl
Carol Kohl joins Annie and Candis this week to talk about how stepping away from schoolish, productivity-based mindsets, we can learn how to balance out our natural need for rest. As adults going thr…
00:26:56 |
Tue 04 Oct 2022
OOL_0018 Childism And Adultism With Iris Chen
In this episode Annie and Candis talk Childism and Adultism in parenting, society, and SDE environments with special guest Iris Chen of Untigering. What is adultism? How does it present in society? A…
00:34:46 |
Tue 27 Sep 2022
OOL_0017 Shifting Out Of Conventional Education
Annie and Candis share their background story of how they met and connected over the realization that the system wasn't working. They delve into the risk involved with leaving a crumbling system behi…
00:27:26 |
Tue 20 Sep 2022
OOL_0016 Celebrating Not-Back-To-School Season
Annie and Candis are back after a summer of rest and reflection. They share with you some of their inward explorations; talk briefly about the move of their business that helps support unschoolers; a…
00:25:56 |
Tue 13 Sep 2022
OOL_0015 Consent In Gun Play
Annie and Candis continue the conversation on power and weapon play. This time they are joined by Samuel Broaden of Honoring Childhood who shares his views on the importance of consent and collaborat…
00:27:30 |
Tue 14 Jun 2022
OOL_0014 Playing With Guns
Annie and Candis are joined once again by Ashley Jefferson. This is the first part of a multi-episode series on Weapon and Power Play. Ashley shares more about the values of her Pan-African Program i…
00:34:26 |
Tue 07 Jun 2022
OOL_0013 Finding Your Unschooler’s Passions
One of the most daunting pieces of unschooling for many is figuring out how your kids will learn. Karla the Unschooling Mama joins Annie and Candis once again. This time they are exploring how to eng…
00:27:58 |
Tue 31 May 2022
OOL_0012 Creating High Quality Unschooling Hubs
Guest Ashley Jefferson joins Annie Friday and Candis Ogilvie once again. This time they're talking about the work it takes to root into relationships and provide high quality support for self-directe…
00:31:40 |
Tue 24 May 2022
OOL_0011 Where Are The Bad Kids At?!
Annie and Candis discuss how children get labeled the "bad kid" sometimes even before they ever start school. Inappropriate expectations, testing, and the pushdown of academics have all contributed t…
00:21:54 |
Tue 17 May 2022
OOL_0010 Reviewing The Miseducation Of Maria Montessori
Maria Montessori created a system of schooling that centered the child and pushed back against oppressive, reward-based systems that focused on testing and grading. It was meant to be accessed by the…
00:31:04 |
Tue 10 May 2022
OOL_0009 Bad Days, Public Shaming, And Moral Issues
Annie and Candis dig into some common practices in discipline of young people in schools these days. Education professionals often turn developmental issues into moral ones. Young people face double …
00:21:54 |
Tue 03 May 2022
OOL_0008 Setting The Pace With Your Unschooler
In this episode, Candis and Annie are joined by Karla the Unschooling Mama. Karla shares her secrets that have come from over 10 years of unschooling with her family. As a parent to 6 unschooling tee…
00:34:34 |
Tue 12 Apr 2022
OOL_0007 Leather Pants in Preschool
Annie and Candis giggle as they talk out what professional clothes look like for the hands-on, play-based educator. Do you really want to break the bank on leather pants when they could limit the act…
00:24:11 |
Tue 05 Apr 2022
OOL_0006 The Problem With Potential
Candis and Annie explore what happens when we turn every interest our children have into a heavy set of expectations, a trap that many educators and parents fall into. The jumping off point for this …
00:25:13 |
Tue 29 Mar 2022
OOL_0005 Deschooling Part 3-Putting It Into Practice
Annie and Candis dive into the balance of actively deschooling while creating a consent-based, student-centered, self-directed learning space. Practices like seeking collaborative solutions, sharing …
00:24:06 |
Tue 22 Mar 2022
OOL_0004 Deschooling Part 2-Shedding The Programming
Annie and Candis take a closer look through the lens of Akilah Richards' definition of deschooling: "shedding the programming and habits that resulted from other people's agency over our time, body, …
00:20:18 |
Tue 15 Mar 2022
OOL_0003 Deschooling Part 1-Start From Where You Are
Candis and Annie discuss the motivations to walk away from the school system and begin to work toward something new. This work begins with deschooling, the ongoing deprogramming process to shed the e…
00:28:49 |
Tue 08 Mar 2022
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