MeaningMaker Podcast

If it's true that creative ideas come to us because they're begging to be brought into the world, then maybe it's also true that our lives - and the ideas and dreams we have about them and the next v…

In a continuation of the failure discussion from S2/E2, we talk about shame - which touches all of our lives at some point. It's about what happens when shame is deeply internalized and allowed to be…

More and more, we’re each learning that the podcast has been a journey to owning for ourselves both the hard and beautiful aspects of our story. One year after taking a one-year break from podcasting…

Over these 23 episodes, we’ve chronicled our coming out story — and our life in the decade after that. We’ve honoured and loved and struggled to make meaning of all that came before — and so much of …

The past is gone but, so often, it defines the present. After reliving this many-faceted coming out story over more than 20 episodes, we talk about why it’s been important to make meaning of what hap…

We’ve all felt like outsiders at one time or another. In those times, we don’t feel seen or witnessed in some way. Because of who we believe we are, what we dream about, what we do or do not believe …

We’re back at it after a month-long break to talk about the future of the podcast, vulnerability hangovers, making mistakes on the air, what reliving this story for you through these episodes has rev…

The stories we create in order to justify our actions and choices become, in so many ways, who we are. They are the things we say back to ourselves to explain our complicated lives. But what if some …

We love to hear from listeners and, in this episode, we answer some of your most frequently asked questions. How do we know this isn’t a phase? Initially, what did you say to yourselves in order to b…

On a cool fall night in October, 2020, we surprised our kids and got married in the backyard of our home. The eight-year journey to that night was curved like a road through the mountains, with stops…

As humans we’re hard-wired to see patterns. Like on a grilled cheese, in the stars, in events, or in nature. But we often miss them in ourselves. In this episode, we let you in on a self-proclaimed “…

Family is a tough subject for many people. Us, too. We’ve had a hard time talking about the concept of family – even to each other sometimes – over the last decade since we came out. With four kids w…

We switched on the mics mid-conversation to catch a discussion about an argument we'd had a few nights before. The episode isn't about the argument. It's about two people who often struggle at the sa…

We’d always planned to do an episode about our decision to stay living in a small town after we came out. This is not it. We scrapped two full-length episodes in favour of this one – a third attempt …

What do our first pride parade, standing shoulder to shoulder with half a million women in Washington the day after Trump's 2016 inauguration, a gay bar in Kentucky, making a wish on the moon in the …

Is it possible to love the hardest things you’ve done when they’ve caused such hurt to yourself and others? What does it mean to forgive yourself? And, how do you do it? In this episode, we explore t…

We let ourselves out of the closet in 2012 and then, for a while, we stuffed our joy in there instead. In the beginning, the joy we shared together saved us on the hardest days, and it also remained …