Macro N Cheese
A podcast that critically examines the working-class struggle through the lens of MMT or Modern Monetary Theory. Host Steve Grumbine, founder of Real Progressives, provides incisive political commentary and showcases grassroots activism. Join us for a robust, unfiltered exploration of economic issues that impact the working class, as we challenge the status quo and prioritize collective well-being over profit. This is comfort food for the mind, fueling our fight for justice and equity!
- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 62 minutes
- Episodes
- 311
- Years Active
- 2019 - 2025
Ep 65 - Afterberner: The Progressive Path Forward with Jamarl Thomas
The progressive movement is still coming to terms with the suspension of Bernie Sanders’ campaign and his endorsement of Joe Biden. We decided to check in with one of our favorite people in independe…
Supply Chains and Pandemics with Steve Keen
If you missed our recent episode with Professor Steve Keen, you’ll want to go back and listen to it soon. In January he spoke of the inevitability of disastrous climate crises. Now here we are, a few…
Revolutions and Reconciliations: The Bernie Sanders Movement with Ryan Grim
As The Intercept’s DC Bureau Chief, Ryan Grim is well-positioned to assess the American political scene. This interview took place a few days before Bernie Sanders suspended his presidential campaign…
Ground Zero with Lauren Ashcraft
This week’s guest is a bit of a departure for us. We don’t usually interview political candidates but Lauren Ashcraft is a stand-up comedian, a Democratic Socialist, and an ardent proponent of MMT, s…
HBCU's, Codeswitching and MMT with Matthew Robinson
Sometimes it seems like economists forget that economics is a social science which is why we’re excited to bring the new generation of MMT to Macro n Cheese. Matthew Robinson is a doctoral student at…
Ep 60 - COVID-19 with Fadhel Kaboub
When asked to talk about public health needs during the current coronavirus pandemic, Fadhel Kaboub immediately brings up climate change and expands the concept of public health to a degree that some…
The Black Vote and The Bernie Sanders Movement with Glen Ford
Recent presidential primary results have been disappointing for supporters of Bernie Sanders. The corporate media and mainstream pundits say that Bernie’s weakness is his failure to attract Black vot…
Radical Honesty in the Age of Deceit with Warren Mosler
Our guest is the OG of MMT. Listeners always appreciate Warren Mosler’s ability to slice through to the clear and practical fiscal implication of any policy consideration. Today he talks to Steve abo…
OK, Boomer. Great Again Isn't Good Enough with L. Randall Wray
It’s always a treat to welcome L. Randall Wray, one of our favorite economists and guests, to Macro n Cheese. This episode is an added treat because, in a bit of a departure, Randy talks to Steve abo…
Ep 56 - A Road Less Travelled and the Media with Alexandra Scaggs
Our guest, Alexandra Scaggs, is a senior writer at Barron’s, where she covers markets and fixed income. The episode begins as an interview about financial journalism and dealing head-on with the neol…
The Economics of Martin Luther King Jr. with Mathew Forstater
The mainstream media has created a pasteurized and homogenized version of Martin Luther King, Jr, befitting the neoliberal cultural bell jar. That being said, our friend Mathew Forstater reminds us t…
Ep 54 - Empire with Ajamu Baraka
In the midst of the chaos of the campaign season, it’s important to remember that there’s a whole world out there, where people are suffering in large part due to the actions of the US. Our guest Aja…
Ep 52 - Colored Property: A History of Redlining with David Freund
The post-war years are widely trumpeted as the golden era for America’s middle class. This is when we became a nation of suburban homeowners. Most would agree that federal programs - like the GI Bill…
Sanders v. Warren and the Overton Window with Robert Hockett
On a podcast that’s primarily about macro, today we’re compelled to talk about the cheese. The last time Bob Hockett was here, he told a skeptical Macro & Cheese audience that Elizabeth Warren was ge…
Event Horizon: A Climate In Crisis with Steve Keen
If you thought you understood the urgency of climate change, our guest, Professor Steve Keen, will shatter those illusions. We’ll be straight with you, this is not an easy episode to hear - but you n…
The Paradox of Enlightenment with Lua Kamál Yuille
What are the mental roadblocks to achieving a system that creates prosperity for all? We often talk about the neoliberal narrative on this podcast, but this week’s guest, Lua Yuille, peels the onion …
How to Lose an Election in 60 Days with Patricia Pino
The UK’s MMT Podcast has been an inspiration to us since well before we launched Macro n Cheese. As fellow MMT promoters from outside the academy, we consider the co-hosts, Patricia Pino and Christia…
Reclaiming The Brexit with Bill Mitchell
In April of 2018, Jacobin Magazine published “Why the Left Should Embrace Brexit,” which made the case for this radical break from neoliberalism. To gain perspective on Labour’s trouncing in the rece…
Ep 47 - 1000 Castaways: An MMT Journey with Clint Ballinger
We admit that Macro n Cheese can be quite wonky. We interview an impressive array of scholars and a typical episode looks at functional finance on a granular level. This episode is a treat for the re…
Ep 46 - Austerity and the Consumer Debt Trap with Emma Caterine
Steve’s guest, Emma Caterine, is a consumer rights attorney with special interest in predatory lenders like loan sharks and payday loan companies. She begins by talking about credit as a social const…