Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks
The format of Inside Out is simple - Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other.
- Update frequency
- every 6 days
- Average duration
- 73 minutes
- Episodes
- 124
- Years Active
- 2023 - 2025
Bob Bennett's Final Fireside
This episode includes an AI-enhanced version of Senator Robert F. Bennett's fireside on The Book of Mormon given on April 10, 2016, three weeks before his death. Ian and Jim discuss the…
A Conversation with Anthony Miller
Ian and Jim have a conversation with Anthony Miller, a former Church member in a mixed-faith marriage who provided support for Ian during his own faith transition.
A Conversation with Roy and Emma Hann
Ian and Jim have a conversation with Roy and Emma Hann, a couple who were stalwarts of the Church in Scotland for most of their lives. They describe their time in the Church and the eve…
A Conversation with Hans Mattsson
In a rare interview, former Area Authority Seventy Hans Mattson, a man that historian Greg Prince described as "the highest-ranking church official who has gone public with deep concern…
Transgender Baptism
Ian and Jim discuss a recent transgender baptism, as well as other developments that seem to signal greater LGBTQ inclusion in the Church.
A Conversation with Chelsea and Lorraine Goodrich
Chelsea Goodrich, an integrative psychotherapist from Hailey, Idaho who was featured by the Associated Press for her compelling and heart-wrenching story of sexual abuse within the Chur…
Aaron Sherinian and Things That Will Never, Ever, Ever Change
Ian and Jim discuss the hiring of Aaron Sherinian as the Church's new Managing Director of Church Communications and what that means for the Church's position on LGBTQ rights.
A Trumpy Trial of Jim Bennett's Faith
Ian supervises as Jim goes off on why Donald Trump is a massive trial of his personal faith.
A Conversation with Irene Gilmour
Irene Gilmour, a former Latter-day Saint from Scotland, joins Ian and Jim to recount her experience in the Church, most notably a service mission she served in Costa Rica that went trau…
A Conversation with Chelsea Goodrich
In their final episode of 2023, Ian and Jim have a groundbreaking conversation with Chelsea Goodrich, an integrative psychotherapist from Hailey, Idaho who was featured by the Associat…
Sexual Abuse in the Church
Ian and Jim confront the thorny issue of sexual abuse in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Patrick Kearon: Apostle
Breaking news! Ian and Jim discuss the exciting announcement of Patrick Kearon as the newest member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
The Incompatibility of Agency and Infallibility
Ian and Jim revisit the topic of prophetic infallibility and discuss the reasons why agency and infallibility are wholly incompatible.
Remembering M. Russell Ballard
Ian and Jim go "straight through" the life of Elder M. Russell Ballard, sharing personal experiences with him and reviewing his complicated legacy.
(The "straight through" thing is cleve…
A Robust Conversation with Les Cairns
Ian and Jim are joined by Les Cairns, a Church leader in Scotland with a different perspective than George Stewart. The "robust" discussion focuses on Les's experience in the Church an…
The Holy Ghost and the CES Letter
Ian and Jim begin a conversation about the CES Letter with a focus on the section discussing the Holy Ghost. When do you know it's really the Holy Ghost? And is Mufasa from The Lion Kin…
A Conversation with George Stewart
In this episode, Ian and Jim have their first guest! George Stewart, a former bishop and former member of the Edinburgh Scotland Stake Presidency, discusses his faith journey and his de…
Theodicy
Ian and Jim discuss the age-old question of why God allows bad things to happen to good people. How often does God intervene in our lives? Does the Church provide any unique answers to …
Prophecies of a Future Church
Ian and Jim examine recently released Church growth numbers and predict what this means for the Church's future. In the meantime, Ian commits his entire life to getting recognized by LD…
General Conference Part II: Think Celestial!
Ian and Jim finish their discussion of General Conference with an in-depth analysis of President Nelson's "Think Celestial!" talk.
Spoiler: One of them liked it much more than the other…