Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.
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- Update frequency
- every 7 days
- Average duration
- 43 minutes
- Episodes
- 708
- Years Active
- 2011 - 2025
DtSR Episode 650 - Executing a Human Focused Security Approach
TL;DR: This episode is a follow-up on two episodes, building up to this conversation. On episode 629 Hed Kovetz introduced us to "Identity Security" (https://dtsr.buzzsprout.com/2153215/episodes/1617…
DtSR Episode 649 - Casey Ellis Other People's Software Bugs
TL;DR: This week's guest is BugCrowd's founder Casey Ellis. Casey's a pioneer in the security space and has some tremendous insights on how he started his business and what the future holds. Casey ex…
DtSR Episode 648 - CyberSecurity Market Forces
TL;DR: This week we're joined by the one and only Mike Privette - to talk about the market forces pushing and pulling cyber security's momentum. Whether you're into startups a la VC funding, or looki…
DtSR Episode 647 - Shiran Bareli AI as More Than Next Gen DLP
TL;DR: If you're deciding whether to listen to this episode - let me help you - YES. This episode is about the application of AI to one of the most difficult problems facing security teams - what and…
DtSR Episode 646 - Ward Pyles on Human Centric Security for Real
TL;DR: This week Ward Pyles joins Jim Tiller and myself to talk about a relatively unremarkable topic - people-centric security. We've talked about it a bunch but it's not until this episode that som…
DtSR Episode 645 - Zero Trust Applied in the Real World
TL;DR: This week's episode is a sit-down in person at Zero Trust World 2025 (sponsored by ThreatLocker) with Ryan Benner. Ryan's the caretaker of "anything that powers up", as he puts it, which means…
DtSR Episode 644 - Inside the Minds of Great Product Managers
TL;DR: This week's episode shifts the focus from leadership in the enterprise, to leadership in the vendor space. Building security products that innovate, inspire, and meet market and customer deman…
DtSR Episode 643 - A CISO's Guide to the First 90 Days
TL;DR: This week's podcast features the wisdom and wit of Merlin Namuth - currently serving as the CISO for the city & county of Denver. Merlin provides insights into how he views the first 90 days o…
DtSR Episode 642 - Chase Cunningham An Epic Zero Trust Keynote
TL;DR: This episode was recorded live from Zero Trust World 2025 in Orlando, FL sponsored by ThreatLocker. Chase Cunningham joins after finishing an epic keynote where he eviscerates security dogma a…
DtSR Episode 641 - Kevin Fielder Security Principles and Guard Rails
TL;DR: On this episodes we welcome Kevin Fielder, CISO @ NatWest Boxed & Mettle, Advisor, investor, Coach, and speaker to talk about building guard rails and principles to minimize security's negativ…
DtSR Episode 640 - A Practitioner View of Security Automation
TL;DR: This week is a real treat! Eva Georgieva - a seasoned cybersecurity automation engineer - joins me, James, and Jim to talk about automation in cyber. We talk about challenges, what to automate…
DtSR Episode 639 - Richard Bird Famous With 12 People
TL;DR: This week's episode features a long-time-coming discussion with Richard Bird discussing his book "Famous with 12 people", and the "influencer culture" in cybersecurity. It's an interesting dis…
DtSR Episode 638 - Matt Shufeldt Cyber Security's Specialist Problem
TL;DR: This week's episode is all about a growing issue in CyberSecurity (and I'm sure it's there in other disciplines as well) - "specialization" or more to the point "over-specialization". Why is i…
DtSR Episode 637 - Amanda Berlin Build SMB Tools That Don’t Suck
TL;DR: On this episode Amanda Berlin, Senior Product manager at Blumira, joins Jim and Rafal to talk about her career, the second edition of her book, and building products for SMBs that "don't suck"…
DtSR Episode 636 - CISO Perspectives Kayla Williams
TL;DR: Kayla Williams, CISO of Devo, joins Rafal & James on this episode to talk about her career path, the importance of the "financial perspective" and the need for well-rounded security leaders wh…
DtSR Episode 635 - The State of Trust 2025
TL;DR: Oh boy. Welcome to 2025, and the first podcast of the year is off to a flyer. Robert "RSnake" Hansen & Patrick Dennis join Jim and I to talk about "trust" - and we touch on everything from AI …
DtSR Episode 634 - The 2024 Year End Episode
TL;DR: On this lengthy and very informal episode of the podcast, James, Jim and I close out the year with James Robinson (CISO of Netskope) and Rock Lambros (Founder of Rock Cyber, and Author) as we …
DtSR Episode 633 - Getting the Band Back Together
TL;DR: On this Christmas episode of the podcast, I (Rafal) get together with two of my team from back in the Optiv days - Mark Arnold & MacKenzie Brown - to talk about some of the things we accomplis…
DtSR Episode 632 - The Politics of Detection Response and Security Operations
TL;DR: This week is a special show - where Raja Mukerji (Co-Founder, Chief Scientists at ExtraHop), Paul Farley (Field CTO, TrustedSec), and Anton Chuvakin (Security Advisor at Office of the CISO, Go…
DtSR Episode 631 - Building and Securing Extreme Scale Network Infrastructure
TL;DR: If you've ever wondered what kind of skill, scale, and engineering goes into building carrier-grade (and bigger) infrastructure this episode is for you. Joe DePalo (Executive Vice President & …