Different with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe
We’d like to introduce you to a new podcast. It’s called Different. But why different?
You know how when you’re wearing sunglasses it puts a tint on everything? Or if you wear glasses you see some things in focus and others out of focus?
Well, we all have lenses on the inside of our head too. And they tint, colour and shape everything we see, think and understand.
So, on this podcast Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe are going to dive headlong into just that as they discover a new ‘meaning making’ story and embrace a fresh way of thinking about life, the universe and everything in-between.
They will talk about getting to a place where we see our lives as part of something bigger than our day-to-day experience - becoming a part of an unfolding story. Finding joy in ordinary moments, facing failure and struggle and discovering liberation and purpose.
They’ll also discuss experiencing life as a gift and learning how to live on purpose. They’ll be peering into dark nights of the soul and finding hope. And simply learning how we are here to walk each home.
We hope you enjoy these conversations – discovering a new story and embracing new thinking.
This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.
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- Update frequency
- every 13 days
- Average duration
- 30 minutes
- Episodes
- 50
- Years Active
- 2023 - 2025
Being Compassionate - the survival of the friendliest
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about being compassionate. From realising that compassion means to suffer with, we explore how it is the action that can save…
Being Humble - It’s not what you think!
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about being humble, which is one of the Oasis 9 Habits. Through our conversation, we recognise that being humble is so very d…
Being Hopeful - Anger, Elders and holding on to hope
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke chat about one of the Oasis 9 Habits: being hopeful. From starting with the beauty of white hair through to the wisdom of St Augus…
Something I wish I’d known as a kid (Part 1)
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke chat about some things they wish they'd known when they were younger. What is it that they would most want to say to their younger…
Compression socks and the power of asking for help
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about why we sometimes struggle to ask for help, opting instead to deflect and blame rather than being vulnerable and asking …
Wisdom and purpose
In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalk and Jill Rowe discuss the interplay between purpose and vision in personal and professional contexts. They argue that purpose goes beyond motivati…
Thin Places
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke discuss the concept of 'thin places,' where the divide between heaven and earth disappears, offering a chance to encounter the div…
A Revolution in the Justice System
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about Oasis Restore, the first ever secure school in this country.
Built on a trauma-informed therapeutic model, we chat about…
On shame and guilt
In this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about shame and guilt. We chat about an experience at an AA meeting, and what a revelation it was of honesty and hope. We explore ho…
Why lament really matters
In this episode of the Different podcast, Steve Chalke and I talk about why lament really matters, especially when we are surrounded on every side by seeming chaos. and the 24 hour news cycle. We cha…
Choosing to turn and face, not run and hide
In this episode of the Different podcast, Steve Chalke and I talk about the human instinct to keep our distance from what is hard or challenging or doesn’t make sense. Via talk of playing hockey, hav…
From Buber to Elmo – learning to love ourselves and others
In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I explore how are struggle to like and love others is connected to our struggle to like and love ourselves. We talk about the work of the phi…
VUCA Part Two
In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I continue our conversation about how we can bring an end to the descending spiral of violence through the building of diverse, inclusive com…
VUCA Part One
In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I explore how all behaviour is communication. We dive into the news, trying to make sense of what is happening now by seeing how trauma impac…
Forgiveness the Gateway to Freedom
I'm Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the different podcast, Steve Chalke and I chat about forgiveness and grudges. We talk openly and honestly about times in our own lives when forgiveness has been…
A Manifesto for Hope
In this episode of the different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about his new book, A Manifesto for Hope. We discuss how the systems that are meant to help people are failing. We look all the way …
Shopping trolleys, ethics and finding a meaning making story
This one begins with cashew nuts, e-bikes, and shopping trolleys and we soon find ourselves talking about ethics – and the granular decisions we make day in, day out. We reflect on the gap we notice …
Courage doesn’t always roar
"My name is Jill Rowe and in this episode Steve Chalke and I talk about the life lessons we can pick up from learning to swim. We unpack the daring involved in making bold statements and big moves bu…
It was never meant to be a religion…
I’m Jill Rowe and in this episode Steve Chalke and I dive into some of the misunderstandings about God and what those misunderstandings lead to. We talk about God not being angry and Jesus not being …
Significant Others
I’m Jill Rowe and in this episode of the Different podcast, Steve Chalke and I talk about pivotal moments and pivotal people. We reflect on those relationships and people who have shaped us and even …