Design Systems Podcast
Design Systems Podcast interviews industry leaders and product makers to share best practices and explore the areas where design and development come together.
- Update frequency
- every 11 days
- Average duration
- 36 minutes
- Episodes
- 136
- Years Active
- 2019 - 2025
37. Josh Cusick from Microsoft: Imagining design system utopia
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Microsoft’s Josh Cusick and Chris discuss how to convey inten…
36. Deep Dive: Design System ROI with Robin Cannon from IBM iX and Danny Phillips from Procore
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35. Leonardo De La Rocha from Intuit: Using one design system to manage dozens of products
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Leonardo De La Rocha and Chris discuss the “federated” design system model, how to connect design systems to business needs, designing friction-free cross-plat…
34. Audrey Tan from Xero: Creating a long-lasting design system vision
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Audrey and Chris discuss the vision guiding Xero’s design system team, how co-ownership helps design system teams thrive, the processes she uses for managing a…
33. Jess Clark from LinkedIn: Old tech, new tech
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Jess Clark and Chris discuss the meaning of design systems and the potential of design systems as a service. What can design systems offer us beyond infrastruc…
32. Deep dive on tokens with Adam Argyle from Google: How do you codify composition?
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This episode is a little bit longer—okay, a lot longer—than our usual. Chrome developer advocate Adam Argyle and Chris Strahl talk about tokens in all their gl…
31. Maya Hampton from REI: Pattern-based thinking on all levels
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Maya Hampton and Chris discuss why design systems need to be flexible, the role of a product manager in a design system, and viewing design systems as products…
30. Jehad Affoneh from Splunk and Scott Mathis from VMware: Schrodinger's tokens, open-source, and components
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Jehad Affoneh, Scott Mathis, and Chris discuss the advantages of open-source, the role of content in design systems, the pattern-based approach to building app…
29. Dave Calleja from Isobar: How agencies build design systems
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Dave Calleja and Chris discuss getting clients to sign off on design systems, strategies for getting executive buy-in, and the role of designer as evangelist.
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28. Matthew Ström from SimpleHealth: Using design tokens to standardize deliverables
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Matthew and Chris discuss what’s exciting about design tokens, how APIs streamline communication, the magic of standardized files, and how to spend less time c…
27. Jennie Yip from Atlassian: Storytelling to drive design system success
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Jennie and Chris discuss the critical role of storytelling for your design system, using learning moments to drive adoption, what comes next after launching yo…
26. Avery Oldt from Blermph: Embracing intentionality and creating trust
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Avery and Chris discuss lessons learned from design and development partnering up vs. making work an “us vs. them” thing, embracing intentionality and viewing …
25. Eric Lobdell from Facebook: Anticipating deviation to drive adoption and contribution
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Eric and Chris discuss how and why Facebook’s design system has evolved over time, anticipating deviation and its positive impact on adoption and contribution,…
24. Nick Cochran from ExxonMobil: How to make doing the right thing the easy thing
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Nick and Chris discuss standing up a design system in 2016, serving development teams that didn’t have access to designers at the time, accelerating and amplif…
23. Vidya Nayak from SoFi: Leading design systems across teams
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Vidya and Chris discuss pathways to becoming a design systems leader, having a content strategy within your design system, personalization considerations, meas…
22. Demian Borba from Adobe: Understanding and harnessing the power of design tokens
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Demian and Chris discuss what design tokens are and why they are a critical part of any design system, getting developers more involved in the design system di…
21. Jina Anne from Clarity: A design system origin story
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Jina and Chris discuss the inception of design tokens and Theo during Jina’s time at Salesforce, the correlation between design systems and community building,…
20. Rick Rodriguez from Walmart Labs: Creating design systems that scale
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Rick and Chris discuss deputizing evangelists to drive adoption and reduce fragmentation, contribution models and thinking about the areas to own vs. areas to …
19. Morgane Peng from Societe Generale: The right level of complexity for the right people
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Morgane and Chris discuss threading design into the fabric of how business works, capturing a wide range of complexity needs within your design system, moving …
18. Jason Lengstorf from Netlify: Failure, finding your way, and helping others adopt a new way of working
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Jason Lengstorf and Chris discuss failure, self-doubt, and ultimately finding your way before switching gears and getting into designs systems, communicating t…