Defending the Lion Podcast

This is the final episode of season 1 for Defending the Lion. In this episode we'll talk about the recent Supreme Court decision, McGirt v Oklahoma, and how that has effected Debbie's case almost 40 …

In this bonus episode we're talking with former Detective Wes Edens. Wes discusses with us the Reid Method, which is a commonly used interrogation method in the United States.  

In this bonus episode we're talking with court reporter Dawn Teal. Dawn was the court reporter in all of the trials for my cousin Debbie's case. Dawn was also responsible for the court's evidence in …

“The truth is like a Lion. You don’t have to defend it. Let it loose. It will defend itself.”- St. Augustine

Many times the work of advocating for victims of crime and the wrongfully convicted go hand in hand. But the issue of the death penalty seems to always bring me to a crossroads where only heart break…

The subject of Episode 16 is one I’ve dreaded for many months. Some things aren’t easy to talk about. But telling the truth and speaking out against corruption and lies are the only way things are go…

In episode 15 I discuss how a new documentary being made about Debbie story brought on more than just new questions. It also brought the opportunity to visit her killer in prison. But I plan didn’t g…

In episode 12 I talk about my first public speaking event, the backlash surrounding the release of John Grisham's book, and a second effort at passing a law to establish a justice commission.

In episode 11 we'll talk about the 4th trial for Debbie's murder. And, continuing to learn more that we didn't know before.

In episode 10 I discuss taking "Debbie's bill" through the Oklahoma legislator.  I also take you through the summer of 2006; gearing up for trial #4 and meeting John Grisham.   

From my family’s perspective the system had worked like it was supposed to. There was a crime, an investigation, suspects were charged and prosecuted, found guilty by a jury of their peers, and they …

In episode 4 we'll further discuss the exhumation of Debbie's body 5 years after her murder.  
The trials of both Ron Williamson and Dennis Fritz in the summer of 1997. Leaving one of them headed to l…

In Episode 5 I'll discuss visiting the Oklahoma death chamber and how the decision of one judge will change the course of Debbie's case forever.  Along with the head to head collision of my personal …

In episode 3 I reflect on how much has been written and said about the Debbie Carter case, but how none of it is about Debbie. While the investigation stalled my hometown of Ada, Oklahoma was rocked …

In episode 2 we'll continue to discuss what my family was told about the original investigation into Debbie's murder.  I will also flash forward to a 1996 when I interviewed the District Attorney and…