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Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

We live in a world where our civilization and daily lives depend upon institutions, infrastructure, and technological substrates that are _complicated_ but not _unknowable_. Join Patrick McKenzie (patio11) as he discusses how decisions, technology, culture, and incentives shape our finance, technology, government, and more, with the people who built (and build) those Complex Systems.

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Update frequency
every 7 days
Average duration
69 minutes
Episodes
58
Years Active
2024 - 2025
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Taking stablecoins seriously, with Haseeb Qureshi

Taking stablecoins seriously, with Haseeb Qureshi

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) is joined by Haseeb Qureshi, a managing partner at Dragonfly, a crypto-focused VC fund. They discuss the evolution of stablecoins, three key use cases, an…

01:08:05  |   Thu 10 Apr 2025
The past, present, and future of AI, with Stripe

The past, present, and future of AI, with Stripe

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Emily Sands, Head of Information at Stripe, to discuss how they leverage AI to process over $1.4 trillion annually, while navigating the complex web of merchan…

01:33:48  |   Thu 03 Apr 2025
No, poor people aren’t funding your credit card rewards

No, poor people aren’t funding your credit card rewards

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) challenges a recent Atlantic article claiming that low-income cardholders subsidize credit card rewards through high interest payments. Drawing from his Bi…

01:06:47  |   Thu 27 Mar 2025
Points, profits, and packed planes, with Gary Leff

Points, profits, and packed planes, with Gary Leff

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Gary Leff, the author of "View from the Wing", to discuss the economic systems behind airlines and loyalty programs. They discuss how airlines manage to stay p…

01:31:27  |   Thu 20 Mar 2025
Tax the dirt, with Lars Doucet & Greg Miller

Tax the dirt, with Lars Doucet & Greg Miller

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Lars Doucet and Greg Miller, co-founders who have just launched the Center for Land Economics, to discuss improving property taxation in the US. They explore h…

01:17:07  |   Thu 13 Mar 2025
A tale of two Americas in one $50K cash withdrawal

A tale of two Americas in one $50K cash withdrawal

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) explains the standard procedure for large withdrawals in bank branches, with particular focus on the viral story published in The Cut about a woman who withdrew $50,000 cas…

00:41:13  |   Thu 06 Mar 2025
AI, data centers, and power economics, with Azeem Azhar

AI, data centers, and power economics, with Azeem Azhar

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Azeem Azhar, writer of the Exponential View newsletter, to discuss the massive data center buildout powering AI and its implications for our energy infrastruct…

01:13:53  |   Thu 27 Feb 2025
You can’t retract the facts

You can’t retract the facts

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) responds to a recent request by a crypto unicorn founder / bank CEO to retract his essay Debanking (and debunking?). Come for the note about editorial sta…

00:42:03  |   Thu 20 Feb 2025
Stablecoins and shenanigans, with Zeke Faux

Stablecoins and shenanigans, with Zeke Faux

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) is joined by Zeke Faux, investigative reporter at Bloomberg and author of Number Go Up, to discuss stablecoins and crypto fraud. They dive into Tether's c…

01:27:03  |   Thu 13 Feb 2025
Power plays: grid economics and engineering, with Travis Dauwalter

Power plays: grid economics and engineering, with Travis Dauwalter

Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) is joined by Travis Dauwalter, energy enthusiast (and PhD), to explain the systems we often take for granted behind the US electrical grid. The conversation covers how the…

01:13:46  |   Thu 06 Feb 2025
The landmines buried in the fine print of Chicago’s new casino deal

The landmines buried in the fine print of Chicago’s new casino deal

In today’s episode Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) examines a Chicago casino investment, first of its kind within the city limits. Patrick reads from his Bits About Money essay (published January 2025) w…

00:43:23  |   Thu 30 Jan 2025
The banking crisis, two years later

The banking crisis, two years later

Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) revisits his March 2023 essay that explained the dynamics of bank runs and system stress during the banking crisis one month prior. With data from a newly released Federal…

01:09:48  |   Thu 23 Jan 2025
Debanking explained

Debanking explained

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) unpacks his 24k word essay Debanking (and Debunking?) originally published on Bits about Money. He discusses the contours of recent debanking claims made …

01:00:43  |   Thu 16 Jan 2025
Retrospective on 2024, with Sammy Cottrell

Retrospective on 2024, with Sammy Cottrell

In this special episode, Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) and his EA/producer Sammy Cottrell examine the production function behind Complex Systems, from studio logistics to transcript annotation and gues…

01:03:50  |   Thu 09 Jan 2025
Seeing like an outsider, with Yatharth

Seeing like an outsider, with Yatharth

In this episode, Yatharth (@askyatharth), a graduate student and software engineer, turns the tables to interview Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) about cultural codes, writing, and AI. Patrick shares how…

01:19:31  |   Thu 02 Jan 2025
The future of pandemic preparedness, with Joshua Morrison

The future of pandemic preparedness, with Joshua Morrison

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Joshua Morrison, the CEO of advocacy non-profit 1Day Sooner. They discuss what worked and what didn't in Operation Warp Speed's unprecedented …

01:12:30  |   Thu 19 Dec 2024
How we tax property, with Lars Doucet

How we tax property, with Lars Doucet

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) and Lars Doucet, the author of Land is a Big Deal, discuss how cities determine your property's value and collect taxes. They explore how assessment office…

01:09:36  |   Thu 12 Dec 2024
Fraud levels are a policy choice

Fraud levels are a policy choice

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) offers a reading of his viral essay, "The optimal amount of fraud is non-zero" with extensive live commentary. Patrick examines payment systems, benefits p…

00:49:21  |   Thu 05 Dec 2024
AI, poker, and mind games, with Max Chiswick

AI, poker, and mind games, with Max Chiswick

Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Max Chiswick, a former professional poker player turned AI educator, to explore how poker intersects with decision making. They discuss how the online poker bo…

00:55:00  |   Thu 21 Nov 2024
Boom, busts, and long term progress with Byrne Hobart

Boom, busts, and long term progress with Byrne Hobart

By popular demand, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Byrne Hobart for a 3rd conversation to discuss Byrne’s book "Boom: Bubbles and the End of Stagnation." They explore how periods of irrationa…

01:42:59  |   Thu 14 Nov 2024
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