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An Arm and a Leg

An Arm and a Leg is a podcast about why health care costs so freaking much and what we can (maybe) do about it.

If you’ve ever been surprised by a medical bill, you’re in good company. But as our team of seasoned journalists has learned from years of reporting — you’re not always helpless. We don’t have all the answers, but we’ll offer you tools and big picture insights with plenty of humor and heart. 

An Arm and a Leg is co-produced with KFF Health News and distributed in partnership with KUOW.

You can support An Arm and a Leg by donating at armandalegshow.com/support/

Show Credits: Created, hosted, and produced by Dan Weissmann with senior producer Emily Pisacreta and engagement producer Claire Davenport, edited by Ellen Weiss. Audio wizard: Adam Raymonda. Music is by Dave Weiner and Blue Dot Sessions. Bea Bosco is our consulting director of operations. Lynne Johnson is our operations manager.

Documentary Health & Fitness Society & Culture Medicine
Update frequency
every 17 days
Average duration
21 minutes
Episodes
151
Years Active
2018 - 2025
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The Insurance Warrior takes on a $61B Company

The Insurance Warrior takes on a $61B Company

When Mattew Lientz needed surgery to save his life, his insurance wouldn’t cover it. Enter: Laurie Todd, the Insurance Warrior. Her first task: Figuring out who Matthew was really fighting, and how b…

00:24:20  |   Thu 11 Nov 2021
Meet the Insurance Warrior

Meet the Insurance Warrior

In 2005, Laurie Todd needed surgery to save her life. Her insurance company had no intention of paying for it. She went to war, and won. She's been helping other do the same ever since. Now, she's sh…

00:23:45  |   Mon 01 Nov 2021
We spend 12 million hours a week on the phone with health insurance

We spend 12 million hours a week on the phone with health insurance

Yup. A Stanford professor measured it. So… we should probably learn how they actually make money, understand their incentives. Here’s one clue: A lot of the time, providing insurance isn’t their real…

00:19:40  |   Thu 14 Oct 2021
Wait, that was legal until now?!?

Wait, that was legal until now?!?

Hospitals in Maryland were suing patients over bills that should’ve been forgiven.

It wasn’t illegal. Until now. How a coalition changed that. This year. 


Plus, our friends at Dollar For build their bi…

00:26:54  |   Thu 30 Sep 2021

"We just kept right on pushing"

Manny Lanza died because he didn't have insurance. His parents fought back, with help from New York’s favorite tabloid. After years of work by advocates and organizers, laws suddenly changed. Here’s …

00:25:42  |   Thu 16 Sep 2021
The wild backstory of a tiny but crucial Obamacare provision (ft. David Axelrod)

The wild backstory of a tiny but crucial Obamacare provision (ft. David Axelrod)

How one Republican senator made sure the ACA required non-profit hospitals to act more like charities—and less like loan sharks—before voting against the whole thing. 


The national requirement to offe…

00:26:02  |   Thu 02 Sep 2021
A legendary lawyer sued hospitals for price-gouging their patients. And got his butt handed to him.

A legendary lawyer sued hospitals for price-gouging their patients. And got his butt handed to him.

The lawyer was Richard “Dickie” Scruggs, the lawyer who beat Big Tobacco in the 1990s. Later, he launched a series of ill-fated national lawsuits aimed at getting non-profit hospitals to quit price-g…

00:23:18  |   Thu 19 Aug 2021
We’re back! Starting Aug 19.  And we’ve got some doozies for you.

We’re back! Starting Aug 19. And we’ve got some doozies for you.

We’ve been on a hiatus for a minute, and we are SO excited about what we’re coming back with.

These are stories we’ve been collecting for months—some of them for more than a year—and they’re big. 


One …

00:02:36  |   Thu 05 Aug 2021
Badass volunteers help Jared level up, in the fight to crush medical debt

Badass volunteers help Jared level up, in the fight to crush medical debt

An update on Jared Walker, whose viral TikTok described a little-known (and effective) method to “crush” many hospital bills, and offered to help folks deploy it. Since then, he's been responding to …

00:10:49  |   Thu 15 Jul 2021
A whole book about fighting effed-up medical bills? Yes, please.

A whole book about fighting effed-up medical bills? Yes, please.

For years, at ProPublica, Marshall Allen has been exposing health care grifters. (He’s our kind of guy.) 

Now, he's written a book … about how to fight back. It’s called “Never Pay the First Bill.” We…

00:19:05  |   Wed 30 Jun 2021
Want to write a killer letter to insurance? Meet Jeannine.

Want to write a killer letter to insurance? Meet Jeannine.

Health care insiders get stupid medical bills too. One of them taught us how to write an insurance appeal—like the one that saved her son $14,000. You can read that letter—and her notes to us about w…

00:12:56  |   Wed 09 Jun 2021
Mini-episode: One guy skirts a medical-bill trap, and shares the secret.

Mini-episode: One guy skirts a medical-bill trap, and shares the secret.

When Adam Woodrum's insurance denied a claim for an ER bill, he sent his story to NPR... because he happened to KNOW how to deal with it. And he figured it would be a friendly thing to share what he …

00:07:24  |   Wed 19 May 2021
Why picking the right insurance is so hard (bonus/encore)

Why picking the right insurance is so hard (bonus/encore)

How hard is it to pick the best health insurance? ECONOMISTS find it hard. Including one who has studied the question, "How hard can it be to pick a decent insurance plan?"

Lots of people are suddenly…

00:20:14  |   Wed 28 Apr 2021
Programming note:  We're working on some cool new stuff.

Programming note: We're working on some cool new stuff.

... and it's gonna take us a little while to get it ready for you— maybe a couple months. Meanwhile, we'll have little updates for you here and there.

... and it's a great time to sign up for our news…

00:01:35  |   Wed 07 Apr 2021
Who's been trying to cash in on COVID vaccinations? (And how did racism help them out?)

Who's been trying to cash in on COVID vaccinations? (And how did racism help them out?)

With COVID vaccinations ramping up, it's time to check in: Who's been trying to make a buck? And who's been doing their best to serve the folks who need help the most? In Philadelphia, the good, the …

00:31:43  |   Wed 17 Mar 2021
Revisiting insulin, as relevant (and expensive) as ever

Revisiting insulin, as relevant (and expensive) as ever

We're re-releasing and updating a story we first reported in 2019, about how insulin got to be so horribly expensive—the scientists who discovered it did NOT want price or profits to keep it away fro…

00:31:07  |   Thu 25 Feb 2021
A legal strategy for erasing billions in medical debt— that works—from a 60-second video.

A legal strategy for erasing billions in medical debt— that works—from a 60-second video.

Yep. This viral TikTok video's recipe for "crushing" medical bills is legally sound. And IRS filings from thousands of hospitals attest to $2.7 billion of crush-able debt from a single year— a number…
00:26:29  |   Thu 11 Feb 2021
A former

A former "bad guy" lawyer shows us how the dark machinery works. And our rights.

Jeff is a lawyer who used to represent medical-bill collectors in court. ("I was a bad guy, for sure," he says.)

But he switched sides, and he's here to tell us what he knows. For instance, we have mo…

00:24:05  |   Thu 28 Jan 2021
Mini-episode: Two small doses of good news

Mini-episode: Two small doses of good news

2021 is off to a rough start, but we've got a couple of small things that don't completely suck.

First, a new federal rule could help cut through one completely-ridiculous issue. Then, a listener desc…

00:10:50  |   Thu 14 Jan 2021
A 21st-century Christmas Carol: How one Scrooge became a health-care whistleblower

A 21st-century Christmas Carol: How one Scrooge became a health-care whistleblower

Former health-care executive Wendell Potter spent part of 2020 publishing high-profile apologies for the lies he says he told the American people in his old job—and trying to debunk the myths he once…

00:21:58  |   Tue 29 Dec 2020
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