Hold onto your headphones, because this episode's a firecracker. In Episode 4 of WTH Are Māori Wards, we sit down for a bold and unflinching kōrero with Māori ward critic Morris West. What starts as a calm conversation deepens into a battle of wills between Andrew Judd and Morris West, as two staunch perspectives collide with grit, fire, and electric moments. This isn’t just a debate, it’s a reflection of the fault lines of Aotearoa’s democracy. Two strong voices meet at one table, and this is the result.