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Beyond Work: Post-Labor Economics with David Shapiro

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Kimberly Becker & Jessica Parker
Published
Wed 06 Aug 2025
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Summary

In this conversation, Jessica and Kimberly interview David Shapiro to explore the concept of Post-Labor Economics. They discuss the implications of automation and AI on traditional job structures, the need for new economic measurements, and the evolving social contract. They explore the potential of Universal Basic Income and the importance of education in preparing future generations for a changing economy. The discussion emphasizes the need for a shift in how we perceive work, productivity, and personal fulfillment in a world increasingly dominated by technology.

Takeaways

  • Post-Labor Economics examines the impact of automation on traditional jobs.
  • Automation has historically decoupled productivity from human labor.
  • The misconception that technology always creates new jobs is prevalent.
  • AI's rapid advancement poses challenges for job security.
  • Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a potential solution for economic displacement.
  • Current economic measurements like GDP may not reflect true societal well-being.
  • The social contract is evolving as labor becomes less central to identity.
  • Education must adapt to focus on empathy, communication, and critical thinking.
  • A garden mentality encourages ongoing personal growth rather than a linear life path.
  • Rethinking work and meaning is essential in a post-labor society.

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Chapters

00:00
Introduction to Post-Labor Economics

05:34
Understanding Automation and Job Loss

07:40
The Framework of Post-Labor Economics

10:16
The Rise of Automation and Its Impacts

13:05
The Future of Work and Productivity

16:04
Universal Basic Income and Economic Solutions

18:25
The Role of AI in Shaping Society

20:58
The Social Contract and Power Dynamics

24:03
Measuring Economic Success Beyond GDP

26:25
The Future of Capital and Labor Relations

29:06
Conclusion and Future Outlook

37:38
Negotiating Power and Redistribution

39:36
Cultural Values and Collective Solutions

40:24
The Tension Between Individualism and Collectivism

43:00
The Role of New Narratives in Society

43:50
Status Games and Human Behavior

45:52
Rest as Resistance and Economic Withdrawal

48:31
Frameworks for a New Way of Living

53:51
The Garden vs. The River Mentality

57:00
Education for the Future

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