During this episode, we discuss whether marketing is art, science, or a combination of both. Our featured guest is Judson Kovascktiz, our creative maestro at The Squad. He shares with us his perspective on design, his most favorite podcasts, and why he loves working at The Squad. We also have some fun talking the marketing application of VR in future. And of course, you don't want to miss out on the lame business joke of the day.