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Wolf to woof: Did we make dogs?

Author
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Published
Fri 16 May 2025
Episode Link
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/what-the-duck/dogs-wolves-domestication/105222284

The relationship between humans and big scary wolves has come a long way to give us tiny fluffy lap dogs with very discerning tastes in expensive food.

Whose idea was it? Was it the wolves who wanted the warmth of the fire, or the humans who wanted protection from the other scary carnivores? 

And take a look at the first archaeological evidence of a beloved family pet preserved with its human family for almost 15,000 years!

Featuring:
Luc Janssens, Specialist in small animal surgery and archaeologist
Professor Greger Larson, evolutionary genomics at the University of Oxford
Dr Angela Perri, zooarchaeologist, Chronicle Heritage
Professor Clive Wynne, animal psychologist, Arizona State University

Production:
Ann Jones, Presenter / Producer
Nat Tencic, Producer
Rebecca McLaren, Producer
Petria Ladgrove, Executive Producer

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