What Comes After What Comes Next

We're back! And for this episode we're lucky to welcome the one and only Ben Rhodes onto the show.

Ben spent eight years with President Barack Obama - as a close confidante, speechwriter, national sec…

Elizabeth Kolbert is the Pulitzer Prize-winning author of The Sixth Extinction. Her most recent book, Under a White Sky, looks at the unintended consequences of human attempts to control nature with …

This week James catches up with the former chief strategist and senior advisor to President Obama, David Axelrod.

James and David talk about the tensions between consensus building and the need for u…

This week James catches up with award winning author Barbara Kingsolver, whose work over the last three decades has eloquently and movingly touched on matters of genuine social and environmental conc…

When Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim was a child, Lake Chad in her home country spanned 10,000 km2. Today, because of climate change, it is around a tenth of that size.

As Hindou puts its "climate change is no…

James catches up with author and journalist David Wallace-Wells.

David's 2017 best-selling book The Uninhabitable Earth began with the now-famous line “it is worse, much worse, than you think.” It th…

This week James catches up with world-renowned climate scientist and science writer, Dr. Kate Marvel. 

Kate is research scientist at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and a professor at Colum…

Kia ora!

Welcome back for the second series of What Comes After What Comes Next, Aotearoa New Zealand's number one podcast about how we tackle the climate crisis and renew our economies in a post-pand…

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As we weather the economic storm of the COVID-19 pandemic, the climate crisis continues to loom large. We also face a biodiversity crisis and a crisis of deepening poverty.

The good news is that all o…

With the US election just around the corner, James speaks to the journalist and political commentator Ezra Klein about political polarisation and climate change.

Ezra is the founder and editor-at-larg…

The US is a leader on climate change – just not where you might think.  

Cities, states, and businesses are America’s climate innovators, deploying bottom-up solutions - and working with legislatures,…

James chats to the writer and activist George Monbiot.

A self-described "professional troublemaker," George Monbiot has been writing about climate change, the natural environment, and the economy for…

This week James talks with the physicist, ecologist, activist and writer Dr. Vandana Shiva about the future of agriculture and the role of gender in environmental politics. 

During the conversation Dr…

So far we've talked to campaigners, economists and business people about how we tackle the climate crisis in a post-pandemic world.

This week we've got something a little bit different for you. James …

This week James talks to the legendary primatologist and conservationist Dr. Jane Goodall. 

Dr. Goodall has pioneered work in community-centered conservation and sustainable development projects. Here…

This week James talks to the former Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney.

Mark's term as head of the Bank of England ended in January 2020. Soon after, he was appointed as the lead financial a…

This week James talks to the brilliant economist Kate Raworth.

Kate will probably be best known to most listeners for her hugely influential book Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Ce…

This week James talks to the award-winning journalist and bestselling author Naomi Klein.

Naomi has spent two decades documenting the transformations that take place under the cover of disaster. She …

Welcome to episode number two of What Comes After What Comes Next.

This week I am joined by Christiana Figueres, the former head of the UN convention on climate change who spearheaded the talks that l…