Unrelating with Kel & Michelle
Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.
Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.
Michelle has her Bachelor’s degree in Biopsychology and Cognitive Science from the University of Michigan and a Master’s in Clinical Psychology, with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy, from Pepperdine.
Through her practice, she has seen patterns and themes that connect us as people. Her scientific background will help us learn about the brain mechanisms that influence our behavior. And her psychology background will help us figure out if we should continue in the relationships we’re in!
Follow us on Instagram @unrelatingpocast and be sure to download us on Apple, iHeart, Spotify, Youtube, or wherever you get your podcasts!
And if you have a question, comment or would like to be a guest on the show, email us at [email protected]
- Update frequency
- every 6 days
- Average duration
- 30 minutes
- Episodes
- 55
- Years Active
- 2024 - 2025
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 31 Deep Dive: Tackling Ambivalence
To recap the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 31 with guest Iuri Melo, Michelle dives deeper into the Stages of Change Model to help us reflect on our readiness to change.
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Tackling Teen Wellbeing, One Text at a Time
Kel and Michelle sit down with Iuri Melo, founder of a text-based wellness platform called Schoolpulse, to discuss how to address students’ mental health struggles and provide positive momentum for t…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 30 Deep Dive: Helping Us Relate
In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 30 deep dive with Rob, Michelle continues to explore the theme of connection and the need to tap into our sense of caring about each other, even if we c…
Helping Dads Grieve
Kel and Michelle sit down with Rob, Founder of The Sad Dads Club, for a heartfelt conversation about overcoming grief, the power of male friendships and navigating life after the loss of a child.
To a…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 29 Deep Dive: Put A Fling On It
In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Deep Dive on Dr. Elliot Justin, Michelle advocates for injecting some light-heartedness into your long-term relationship sexual chemistry.
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Put A Ring On It
Kel & Michelle sit down with Dr Elliot Justin, CEO and founder of Firmtech, the first sex tech company dedicated to improving men’s erectile fitness. They discuss the advantages of sex wearables and …
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 28 Deep Dive: Tales from a Cure-Seeker
In this deep dive for Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's Episode 28 conversation with Greyson, Michelle reflects on our expectations when it comes to our mental health challenges and talks about the pi…
Tales From A Solo Traveler
Kel & Michelle sit down with Greyson, a writer and digital nomad, to discuss the unique challenges of traveling the world solo, how he deals with loneliness and his mental health struggles, and the b…
Teaching Us A Thing Or Two
Kel & Michelle sit down for an enlightening conversation with retired teacher and principal Joan to discuss the complex relationships between schools, students and parents, how to nurture a love of l…
Ask Us Anything
Kel and Michelle sit down and answer listener email questions.
How do you get your partner to stop doing annoying things?
What does it mean to be in a happy relationship?
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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 25 Deep Dive: Reconnecting With Your Motivation
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 25, Michelle talks about the challenges of staying motivated and what might help.
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Reconnecting With A Healthier Food Relationship
Kel and Michelle sit down with Dr. Christian Middelthon, a health coach and chiropractor, to talk about our unhealthy relationship with food, managing negative body image, embracing discomfort, and h…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 24 Deep Dive: Feeling Like A Fraud?
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 124, Michelle talks about the theme of Imposter Syndrome from Arran's episode.
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Emotional Recovery After A Job Loss
Kel and Michelle sit down with Arran to talk about the emotional and relational toll that he experienced after losing his job, and the impact on his identity.
Catch all new episodes, Wednesdays and Fr…
Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 23 Deep Dive: An Honest Appraisal Of Effort
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 23 with Justin, Michelle talks about how we do or don't hold ourselves accountable when we're working towards a goal.
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Let's Get Physical
Kel & Michelle sit down with Justin Roth, a certified professional trainer and corrective exercise specialist, for an in depth discussion on his personal journey, taking care of your physical and emo…
Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 22 Deep Dive: The Mind As A Master Manipulator
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 22, Michelle confirms that our minds mess with us and emphasizes the need for awareness about your distorted thinking.
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Cognitive Distortions
Kel & Michelle sit down with Denisse for a thoughtful discussion about her cognitive distortions, what these common thought patterns are, and practical strategies for learning how to cope.
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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 21 Deep Dive: The Case For Mediation
To recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 21, Michelle talks about the benefit of “talking it out”.
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Court Is Now In Session
Kel & Michelle sit down for an eye-opening conversation with Bill Buhl, a retired Michigan lawyer, prosecutor, district and circuit court judge.
Bill pulls back the curtain on the justice system, dis…