503: Robert McCleland | Have the Difficult Conversations

No matter what, you are the product of the sum of your decisions. Here to talk about making those decisions, we are welcoming back one of the first guests I’ve ever had on the show, Robert McCleland, PhD. Rob is a coach, speaker, and teacher who is a John Maxwell certified leader. He is the Owner of Upward Leadership--a consulting and training company. As a past President of John Maxwell Leadership Foundation he has sat in the big chair in Higher Education, Medical Foundations, and multinational groups. He has a simple goal: build hard working, healthy, and fun organizations where people love to serve and give their best. He is known for his unrelenting commitment to clarifying purpose, empowering employees, and acknowledging contributions. 

Let’s jump right in and learn what can happen when you make the hard decisions and the right ones, from Rob’s incredible story. 

Things you will learn in this episode:
[00:01 - 08:37] Opening Segment 

I introduce today’s guest, Dr. Robert McCleland

Part of my Mastermind and podcasting story 

Rob talks a bit about his family life 

Rough childhood

Taken in by a neighbor 

Paid to go to college 

How far is too far to help someone 

Most people love enablement 

People want the chance but don’t want the work

Overcomers want to put in the work

Excuses are the sign to pull back 

Rob’s school life 

Sacramento State 

Realizing an ego 

Obsessed with popularity 

Exploring faith for the first time 

[08:38 - 19:52] You’re a Product of the Sum of Your Decisions

Rob’s turn around

Journey 

‘Where would I have been if not for…’

You are your decisions 

Who are your giants?

Rob shares about meeting his wife 

What drew him 

What Rob has learned in the process 

Putting in the work 

Cultivating your relationships 

Humble yourself and get what you need

Rob talks about his growth process into leadership

Became a Youth Pastor 

Moved towards executive work 

Began leading organizations and became a CEO

Deciding to get a Masters 

Received sponsorship 

The value of pure leadership 

Interned with a mentor 

Received a Phd 

[19:53 - 30:56] Building Your Leadership 

Rob talks about researching daily 

Always finding an opportunity to learn 

Rob shares a resources and routine to learn daily 

Link below 

Starting in the morning/quiet time 

Morning Brew 

Wall Street Journal 

Getting into the John Maxwell Leadership

Began working for one of his organizations

The issues internally 

Trying to get the materials to train

Interviewed by John Maxwell 

Began running two of his companies 

My conversation with Rob in the past that impacted me

[30:57 - 43:09] Closing Segment

Who you or What you know? 

It’s who you know, but to get to them it’s about what you know

They need to trust you 

How Rob builds trust while networking 

Give a short answer then ask them about themselves 

Example from a story 

Vulnerability is key

The RaNdoM RoUnd

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Final words 

Tweetable Quotes: 

“You are, right now, a product of the decisions that you’ve made; Some of them good, some of them bad.” - Robert McCleland

“Who’s going to love someone enough to say something, and build the right kind of team for the organization not just for me. You’re going to win if you can get that.” - Robert McCleland

“Winston Churchill, Martin Luther King, a couple of guys like that, they weren’t even liked by a lot of people but they rose up in their moment in time and they won the world. That’s the type of person I want to be.” - Rob McCleland

Resources Mentioned: 

Harvard Business Review

Morning Brew Newsletter

EQUIP

Learning Leadership

Leader Tribe Podcast

You can connect with Rob on LinkedIn and Twitter or email [email protected]. Be sure to visit https://www.leadertribe.com to learn more about his space. 

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