Episode 17: An Enterprise Architects view on Clean Core - Michael Sokollek

Guest: 

• Michael Sokollek - Chief Enterprise Architect - SAP SE

Host: 

• Alexander Greb - Consulting Director - cbs corporate business solutions
• Johannes Langguth - Head of Business Transformation and Architecture - SAP SE

Today we dive past the buzzwords to treat Clean Core as an attitude and a practical operating model—from strategy to execution. We bust the “back-to-standard only” myth, map the five dimensions (processes, extensibility, data, integrations, operations), and show how governance and the right toolchain turn ERP from a cluttered basement into a system you can actually change.

You’ll learn:

• Why Clean Core is a spectrum (keep clean and get clean), not a binary state.
• How to run fit-to-standard with process deviation management and business-case-backed exceptions.
• Where partners, toolchains (incl. Signavio & EA content), and RISE architects fit in.
• How to align capabilities and custom code to decide what truly differentiates.
• The real risk of shadow IT—and how to prevent it with transparency and cadence.

If you’re staring at years of modifications, stuck on an S/4HANA move, or just want upgrades without nightmares, this episode gives you the guardrails, mindset, and first steps to get from talking to doing.

Takeaways

• Clean Core is a vehicle for agility and transformation.
• Governance and maturity are crucial for maintaining a clean core.
• The dimensions of Clean Core include processes, extensibility, data, integrations, and operations.
• Achieving a clean core is a journey, not a quick fix.
• Organizations must balance efficiency with effectiveness in their processes.
• The business model of SAP partners should focus on delivering value, not just selling days.
• Tools and technology play a significant role in achieving Clean Core.
• Understanding the current technical debt is essential for organizations.
• Organizations need to connect their custom code with business capabilities.
• The journey towards Clean Core requires a strategic approach and continuous improvement.

Follow Michael here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-sokollek/

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Follow Johannes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johanneslangguth/

Thanks to Steven Spears for lending his voice for our podcast intro.
Theme music by Luis Álvarez a.k.a. Fourth Dogma