Guest host Julie Chavez interviews writer and editor Elizabeth Passarella about It Was an Ugly Couch Anyway: And Other Thoughts on Moving Forward, a refreshingly honest and hilarious collection of essays about navigating change and staying sane during the unexpected twists. Elizabeth shares the story behind her iconic title (it isn’t the one she originally wanted!) and describes how tough it was to write during the pandemic when she didn't feel like herself. She also talks about her beloved New York City apartment, her faith, her questionable opinions (she despises kitchen islands, for example), her late father, and the big, ugly couch he left behind.
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