In this episode, two Melbourne-based photographers, Sanja Pahoki and Vivian Cooper Smith shared their thoughts over three past visual art exhibitions in Melbourne. In the conversation, they did not only bring the visual of the works they saw in the exhibitions, but also opened the discussion in regarding to the practice of visual art, photography practice and art merchandise. For me, it was an utterly fun and thoughtful experience of chatting with them. I hope it is an enjoyable and inspiring episode to you, the listeners too. Two speakers: Sanja Pahoki https://www.sanjapahoki.com/ Vivian Cooper Smith https://viviancoopersmith.com The exhibitions seen by Vivian "After L'Été" Eleanor Louise Butt https://busprojects.org.au/program/after-l-ete Nicholas Thompson Gallery https://www.nicholasthompsongallery.com.au/publications/ Alun Elach -Jones https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alun_Leach-Jones The exhibitions seen by Sanja: Concept Store Photography 3rd year student exhibition Artspace in VCA Daren Sylvester https://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/exhibition/darren-sylvester/ Red Bubble https://www.redbubble.com Vivian's upcoming exhibition titled The Stranger opens 30/4 - 25/5; opening 2-4pm Sat 4/5 Blockprojects gallery https://blockprojectsgallery.com/exhibitions The TV show recommended by Sanja: Pen15 on Stan.TV The lunch with Sanja and Vivian: vegetarian dumplings and two simple stir-fries.