Conversation: It's only drowning after all with David Litt

David Litt—former speechwriter for President Obama and author of Thanks, Obama—never thought he’d surf. Then one day, he did. And another. And another. In this episode, we chat about David’s funny, brutally honest new book It’s Only Drowning, which chronicles his totally uncalled-for decision to learn to surf, culminating in a trip to the North Shore.

It’s not Barbarian Days. It’s funnier. And more relatable. Read it.