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The Dance Between Leaders, Managers And Followers

Author
Rob McPhillips
Published
Mon 10 Feb 2025
Episode Link
https://unifiedteampodcast.com/episode/the-dance-between-leaders-managers-and-followers

Is a referee a leader or manager?

Often today we use the term referee or leader interchangeably. This dilutes the difference those roles have. Which poses the question... is a sports referee a leader or a manager?


Establishing the differences, allows us to define the responsibilies of each.


In today's podcast, Clark Ray, Tony Walmsley and I discussed Managers, Leaders and Followers.


What are the rights, responsibilities and duties of each?


What happens when team members fall short or disengage?


Is it the responsibility of team members to follow? Or for leaders to inspire followers to want to follow?


Share your thoughts below and as part of The Building Better Leaders Research Project


Links:


Clark Ray’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/10thman/

Clark’s Website: https://www.clarkray.com


Tony Walmsley’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-walmsley/

Tony’s Website: https://theleadersadvisory.com


Rob McPhillips’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robmcphillips/


Building Better Leaders Research: https://robmcphillips.com/building-better-leaders-project/


Chapters:


00:00 Ben White's Gamesmanship: A Controversial Tactic

00:39 Referee's Role: Leadership or Management?

01:25 Defining Leadership: A Philosophical Debate

02:33 Ethics in Sports: Comparing Football and Rugby

03:28 Historical Leaders: Churchill, Blair, and More

04:23 The Complexity of Leadership and Followership

05:31 The Referee's Ethical Dilemma

08:52 Leadership in Crisis: Trust and Authority

14:42 The Role of Vision in Leadership

20:13 Permission vs. Commitment in Leadership

31:42 The Essence of Leadership

33:25 The Problem with Modern Leadership

34:02 Historical Examples of Leadership Failures

35:50 Character and Integrity in Leadership

37:12 Leadership in Family and Society

39:39 Challenges of Leading in Today's World

44:22 The Role of Vision in Leadership

54:06 The Importance of Moral Leadership

55:45 The Need for Collective Vision

58:58 Final Thoughts on Leadership and Followership

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