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20VC: a16z's Martin Casado on Anthropic vs OpenAI: Where Value Accrues | Cursor vs Replit vs Lovable: Who Wins and Who Loses | The One Sin in AI Investing | Why Open Source is a National Security Risk with China

Author
The Twenty Minute VC
Published
Mon 28 Jul 2025
Episode Link
https://thetwentyminutevc.libsyn.com/20vc-a16zs-martin-casado-on-anthropic-vs-openai-where-value-accrues-cursor-vs-replit-vs-lovable-who-wins-and-who-loses-the-one-sin-in-ai-investing-why-open-source-is-a-national-security-risk-with-china

Martin Casado is a General Partner @ a16z where he leads the firms $1.25BN infrastructure fund. At a16z, Martin has led investments in companies like Cursor, dbt Labs, and Fivetran to name a few. Before joining a16z, he co-founded Nicira, acquired by VMware for $1.26B. At VMware, he served as CTO of Networking. Widely regarded as a visionary in enterprise infrastructure, Martin has helped shape the modern cloud computing stack.

Agenda:

00:00 – Analysis of Current AI Investment Landscape

04:45 – Will Anthropic Kill the AI App Layer?

09:20 – “The Oligopoly Is Coming—Just Like Cloud”

12:50 – Are AI Models Actually Terrible Venture Investments?

15:40 – Why it is BS to Put Down AI Apps for Having Temporary Revenue

21:30 – “Open Source Is a National Security Weapon—And We're Losing”

26:40 – “Have the Foundation Models of the Future All Been Founded Already”

34:30 – Why it is BS to Denigrate AI Apps for Having Low Margins

38:40 – Does AI Make 1x Engineers 10x or 10x Becomes 100x

44:10 – “We’re All Dead Wrong About AI and Job Loss”

50:30 – “The Only Sin in Venture: Backing the Wrong Winner”

55:10 – What People Think They Know About Wealth But Do Not

 

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