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20Product: Why Most CPOs are Bad | Why You Do Not Need PMs in a World of AI | Why the Design Stage is Dead and How to Use Vibe Coding to Replace It | The Three Roles All Founders End Up Firing on Repeat with Jason James @ Tezi

Author
The Twenty Minute VC
Published
Fri 29 Aug 2025
Episode Link
https://thetwentyminutevc.libsyn.com/20product-why-most-cpos-are-bad-why-you-do-not-need-pms-in-a-world-of-ai-why-the-design-stage-is-dead-and-how-to-use-vibe-coding-to-replace-it-the-three-roles-all-founders-end-up-firing-on-repeat-with-jason-james-tezi

Jason James is the Co-Founder of Tezi and one of the leading product minds in the valley. Prior to Tezi, Jason was the VP Product at Instacart and before that was Head of Product and Design at Thumbtack. 

AGENDA:

00:00 Product lessons scaling Instacart to $40B – what really moves the needle

02:15 Why “quick optimizations” won’t build billion-dollar products

04:30 MVPs are dead? How AI is reshaping product development

07:00 Do startups even need PMs anymore in the age of AI?

11:30 The biggest product mistake Jason made building Tezi

16:30 Why most hiring managers fail at recruiting

20:00 The resume trap: how to spot if someone was just “on the elevator up”

26:00 The three roles founders always end up firing

28:00 Are most CPOs actually terrible?

36:30 The myth of startup “culture” – why growth is the only thing that matters

43:00 Did DoorDash actually beat Instacart? The inside take

48:00 Fundraising secrets founders never realize until it’s too late

 

 

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