Audio source: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/intelligence-squared/the-sunday-debate-brave-new-usI2DpLUHQ0/ (10 mins in)Full debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CcclqEiZw
Part 1 here: https://swyx.transistor.fm/episodes/1984-vs-brave-new-world-pt-1-intelligence-squared
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