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The Stepping Out of Line Podcast

In his raw and in-depth interviews, Leo Gibbons speaks to public figures who have stood out from the crowd and stood by what they believe in.


Each episode is written and presented by Leo Gibbons, and edited by Leo Gibbons and Will Barber-Taylor.


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Politics Society & Culture Interviews
Update frequency
every 6 days
Average duration
78 minutes
Episodes
13
Years Active
2023
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Bonus Episode Three - The Tom Jones One

Bonus Episode Three - The Tom Jones One

In this bonus episode, Leo has a natter with Cllr Tom Jones. Tom is the Conservative Party councillor for Scotton and Lower Wensleydale in North Yorkshire and a political commentator and critic. In o…

01:09:36  |   Mon 09 Oct 2023
Episode Ten - The Shama Tatler One

Episode Ten - The Shama Tatler One

In this episode, Leo speaks to Shama Tatler, Cabinet Member for Regeneration, Planning & Growth in the London Borough of Brent. Shama offers insights into how to be a 'pro-growth' and 'pro-housing' l…

01:00:24  |   Mon 04 Sep 2023
Episode Nine - The Ruth Anderson One

Episode Nine - The Ruth Anderson One

In this episode, Leo sits down with Ruth Anderson, former Labour MP and current life peer in the House of Lords. Ruth reflects on her time representing Stoke-on-Trent and why Labour lost its 'Red Wal…

01:35:40  |   Tue 29 Aug 2023
Episode Eight - The Harry Pitts & Matt Bolton One

Episode Eight - The Harry Pitts & Matt Bolton One

In this episode, Leo sits down with Harry Pitts and Matt Bolton, authors of Corbynism: A Critical Approach. Their book offered a left-critique of Corbynism, keenly examining how Corbynism’s truncated…

01:22:16  |   Mon 21 Aug 2023
Episode Seven - The Liam Duffy One

Episode Seven - The Liam Duffy One

In this episode, Leo is joined by Liam Duffy, a researcher, speaker and trainer in counter-terrorism. Our conversation took place not long after the 'Wakefield school incident', where a copy of the Q…
01:17:59  |   Mon 14 Aug 2023
Episode Six - The Sarah Ditum One

Episode Six - The Sarah Ditum One

In this episode, Leo sits down with feminist writer and pop culture critic, Sarah Ditum. Sarah has written extensively on sex and gender and has faced a backlash for her 'gender critical' views. Duri…
01:26:05  |   Mon 07 Aug 2023
Bonus Episode Two - Another Gary Kent One

Bonus Episode Two - Another Gary Kent One

Over the past thirty years, Gary Kent has been one of the most influential figures in shaping Labour foreign policy. Yet few people know his name. From the Good Friday Agreement, to the Iraq invasion…

01:18:21  |   Wed 12 Apr 2023
Bonus Episode One - The Gary Kent One

Bonus Episode One - The Gary Kent One

Over the past thirty years, Gary Kent has been one of the most influential figures in shaping Labour foreign policy. Yet few people know his name. From the Good Friday Agreement, to the Iraq invasion…

01:30:35  |   Wed 12 Apr 2023
Episode Five - The Amina Lone One

Episode Five - The Amina Lone One

In this episode meets ex-politician Amina Lone and hears about her dramatic rise and fall in the Labour Party. Amina and Leo discuss the failure of liberals and Labour officials to defend secularism …
01:28:47  |   Mon 13 Feb 2023
Episode Four - The Jon Burke One

Episode Four - The Jon Burke One

In this episode, Leo sits down with ex-politician Jon Burke to discuss his tumultuous 7 years as a Labour councillor in Hackney. Jon charts his rapid rise in local government and his dramatic decisio…
01:23:00  |   Sun 05 Feb 2023
Episode Three - The Naama Kates One

Episode Three - The Naama Kates One

In this episode, Leo chats to fellow podcaster Naama Kates about her work investigating the Incel ('involuntarily celibate') community. Kates is an expert on this growing, but often misunderstood, su…
01:03:00  |   Mon 30 Jan 2023
Episode Two - The John Woodcock One

Episode Two - The John Woodcock One

On this episode, Leo speaks to former Member of Parliament John Woodcock about his rise up the Labour Party and his eventual decision to step away from the party. John reflects candidly on his career…
01:25:04  |   Sun 22 Jan 2023
Episode One - The Chris Clarke One

Episode One - The Chris Clarke One

In this episode, Leo interviews Chris Clarke, the author of The Dark Knight and the Puppet Master: The Myths that Destroy the Labour Party. Leo and Chris discuss how the book came about and discuss w…

01:03:43  |   Mon 16 Jan 2023
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