Welcome to a detailed exploration of the capital markets through the lens of Delilah Panio, Vice President at TMX Group, the owner of the Toronto Stock Exchange and the TSX Venture Exchange. Delilah brings her extensive expertise to the SoCal Edge Podcast, where she shares insights on unique exit opportunities for startups and the evolving landscape of capital formation.
Delilah Panio is a seasoned expert in capital markets, with 25 years of experience under her belt. Settling in Southern California 14 years ago, Delilah brings a North American perspective to her role at TSX, helping startups navigate the intricate world of public offerings. Her journey took her from Toronto to Orange County, where she now thrives in connecting founders and investors with the right capital strategies.
Delilah discusses the pressures startups face when considering exit strategies in the competitive landscape of Silicon Valley. Unlike the traditional route of listing on Nasdaq or NYSE, Delilah introduces the TSX Venture Exchange as a viable alternative. This exchange allows startups to access growth capital while maintaining control, with only 20% required to be publicly floated.
Delilah explains why U.S. founders might consider raising capital in Canada, citing that private markets often fail to serve their needs. Canada's public markets are tailored for smaller, early-stage companies, offering them leverage for growth without relinquishing significant control to venture capitalists. The TSX Venture Exchange is presented as public venture capital, offering a step-by-step path from initial public offering to eventual graduation to larger exchanges like Nasdaq or NYSE.
Art Dicker, the podcast host, discusses with Delilah the regulatory complexities involved in listing on U.S. exchanges versus Canadian ones. Delilah outlines Canada's "right size" corporate governance model, which balances investor protection with the practical needs of smaller companies. Key differences include lower costs and simplified reporting requirements, offering a compelling reason for startups to consider listing in Canada.
Throughout the discussion, Delilah highlights four critical factors – the four Rs – for startups to consider before going public: Reason, Readiness, Requirements, and Reality. Delilah stresses that it’s essential for startups to assess their objectives, ensure managerial readiness, meet financial criteria, and understand market realities before initiating an initial public offering.
Delilah provides an overview of Canada's robust retail investor base, emphasizing the significant role it plays in supporting early-stage public companies. She notes that this investor base has been active for over a century, attracted by the opportunity to invest in sectors like tech, life sciences, and natural resources at an early stage.
Acknowledging the complexities faced by startups in securing the right funding, Delilah advises founders to explore all available capital options from bootstrapping to public markets. She emphasizes that being informed and strategically planning for various funding scenarios can make a significant difference in a startup's success.
Delilah's commitment extends beyond professional endeavors into supporting female founders through initiatives like Project Female Founder and We Are Enough. She advocates for increased female participation in investing, recognizing that bridging the funding gap requires more women to take on investor roles.
Delilah Panio shares her invaluable insights, making a compelling case for startups to consider the Toronto Stock Exchange and TSX Venture Exchange as part of their funding strategy. For entrepreneurs eager to learn more about these opportunities, Delilah can be reached via LinkedIn or through the TSX website at us.tsx.com.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:48 Delilah Panio's Background and Role at TSX
01:33 Challenges and Opportunities for Startups
02:06 Why Consider TSX for Raising Capital?
04:35 Corporate Governance and Regulatory Differences
06:25 Benefits of Listing on TSX Venture Exchange
14:03 Investor Base and Market Dynamics
18:18 Canadian Investment Landscape
18:44 TSX and Dual Listing Process
20:03 International Companies and TSX
20:16 Project Female Founder and Capital Strategy
20:46 Understanding Capital Options
24:24 Challenges with Venture Debt
25:16 Importance of Founder Awareness
28:45 Supporting Female Founders
30:03 Investing in Female-Led Funds
32:07 Why Orange County?
33:57 Conclusion and Contact Information