In a deep-dive on public education and issues surrounding it, I talk with Marc Kuly about Titles, teaching adults, teachers’ passion, the promise of public schooling, student teachers’ perception of schools outside their communities, perceptions of immigrant families vs. indigenous families, comfortable narratives, service learning, bringing students together in extracurriculars, finding joy in learning and sharing, world issues/global citizenship, a bold new way to assess the school system, external validation, schools as storytelling institutions, the range of stories that schools allow, the stories students tell about themselves and the stories we never hear as teachers, masquerading to find success, what teachers need to do differently, and recognizing the work of inner-city teachers.