The Thumb Twiddlers - Previewing Tigers Women's Final with Vicky Macqueen, Rugby Mini-Forum with Charles Richardson

The devil finds work for idle hands, so Mike and Elliott make the most of a couple of weeks off for the Tigers men's side by previewing the Women's playoff final with head coach Vicky Macqueen, before engaging in a mini "rugby forum" with the Telegraph's rugby correspondent, Charles Richardson - discussing everything from Tigers' season, to Dan McKellar, to the tackle height changes (where the phrase "four fingers below the nipple" is uttered).