Steve Rozhon subs in for John to talk chelonian health issues with Anthony, specifically the death of one of the few remaining Rafetus swinhoei and the recent listing of 201 salamander species on the Lacey Act's injurious wildlife listing due to the perceived threat of Bsal fungus. Steve R, Anthony, and Steve E also took questions from listeners on a wide range of topics from turtle farming to getting/keeping teenagers involved in the hobby.