Welcome to The Poetry Pubcast, where we talk to everyday poets, hosted by Chris and Jen Yokel. In this week's episode, Chris interviews Jen about her perfectionist tendencies, writing as digging, and her thoughts on Dorothy Sayer's take on poetry as search or statement. Jen released her first (and so far only) book Ruins & Kingdoms in 2015, and is currently working on her second poetry collection. *** Poems Read in this Episode: - When I See It from Ruins & Kingdoms - Making Peach Cobbler from The Molehill Vol. 3 - Beneath the Flood V from The Molehill Vol. 5 *** Special thanks to Andrew Osenga for our theme music, New Year's Daybreak. You can find more of his music at andrewosenga.com. To learn more about our writing community and digital chapbooks, visit our website, thepoetrypub.com