Mary Gauthier on patience in art, persistence in business, and losing with John Prine.

Mary Gauthier is a Grammy-nominated songwriter and author, who's songs have been recorded by everyone from Tim McGraw and Blake Shelton, to Boy George and Jimmy Buffett. We talk about sobriety, how owning and running restaurants has influenced her music career, writing with veterans, battling homophobia, and so much more, all with a wise dose of patience, and persistence.

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• Mary Gauthier
• Saved By A Song (book)
• Songwriting with Soldiers
• Matraca Berg
• Gretchen Peters
• Beth Nielsen Chapman
• Liz Rose
• Patty Griffin
• Neko Case

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