Harry and MW break down Leinster’s shock loss to Northampton Saints, the pressure mounting on Leo Cullen and Jacques Nienaber, and whether rugby’s rule changes are turning the game into a counter-attacker’s dream. Is Leinster the most underachieving team in world rugby? Bernard Jackman says yes—Harry just might agree.They also tackle the Springbok number 8 debate, rugby’s scoring explosion, and why teams like the Bulls and Saints are built for this brave new era. MW asks about the comparison between Jake White and Leo Cullen. Both have reached big knockouts. Both have fallen short. Are they different? Or are they similar? Plus, Harry gets philosophical about coaching, micromanagement, and trust—and why Leinster may need more than just a good game plan to recover.